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Yahoo is Number One in So Much More Than Search

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Re: Yahoo is Number One in So Much More Than Search

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Post by Keyframe »

jacquesm wrote: post #22
tybris wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pfff, real men do their own crawling.

well, I toyed around with writing my own search engine (have a pretty good proof of concept) but in the end the bandwidth costs would have been prohibitive... so there :)

http://www.80legs.com/ - jdrock, founder, is around here on HN

Re: Yahoo is Number One in So Much More Than Search

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Post by tokenadult »

jacquesm wrote: post #2

I honestly can't remember the last time I even used Yahoo. Am I alone in this or is this common ?

I use Yahoo Groups email lists every day. They have been enormously helpful in strengthening and building the parent networks formed through the statewide nonprofit organization of which I am now president. I was brought on the state board of directors of the nonprofit in 2003 largely because I knew how to apply Yahoo Groups technology to build cohesion in the organization and its chapters.

Re: Yahoo is Number One in So Much More Than Search

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Post by erlanger »

jacquesm wrote: post #2

I honestly can't remember the last time I even used Yahoo. Am I alone in this or is this common ?

You're not alone, but you're likely in the minority. They've built up a nice little data ecosystem, and I for one love Yahoo Sports. The journalism is so-so, but being able to get a player's Game Log/other stats quickly is something I value, and it seems like all of the other sports sites have conspired to make sports data load slowly as all hell. It's gotten to the point where now I'm more likely to search "clinton portis yahoo" than the player name alone. It's also nice that they treat the NHL as one of the major sports (which it is).

Re: Yahoo is Number One in So Much More Than Search

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Post by jacquesm »

Keyframe wrote: post #31
jacquesm wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

well, I toyed around with writing my own search engine (have a pretty good proof of concept) but in the end the bandwidth costs would have been prohibitive... so there :)

http://www.80legs.com/ - jdrock, founder, is around here on HN

That's extremely interesting. Thank you!

The funny thing is while coding that stuff the bigger problems were financial and the enormous amount of cruft that is the web. The actual search engine wasn't that hard at all.

Re: Yahoo is Number One in So Much More Than Search

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Post by jacquesm »

gus_massa wrote: post #27
jacquesm wrote: post #2

I honestly can't remember the last time I even used Yahoo. Am I alone in this or is this common ?

I am a moderator of a few active Yahoo! Groups. We opened them at eGroups in 2000, and they are still working.

what is the trend in the audience sizes of those groups like ?

Re: Yahoo is Number One in So Much More Than Search

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Post by jdrock »

jacquesm wrote: post #34
Keyframe wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

http://www.80legs.com/ - jdrock, founder, is around here on HN

That's extremely interesting. Thank you! The funny thing is while coding that stuff the bigger problems were financial and the enormous amount of cruft that is the web. The actual search engine wasn't that hard at all.

Yep - that's exactly it. Setting up the infrastructure to handle large, web-scale content analysis is the real challenge. (Shameless plug alert) That's why we setup 80legs: to help everyone not called Google/Yahoo/Microsoft to have comparable capabilities when it comes to this.

Re: Yahoo is Number One in So Much More Than Search

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Post by jacquesm »

jdrock wrote: post #37
jacquesm wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's extremely interesting. Thank you! The funny thing is while coding that stuff the bigger problems were financial and the enormous amount of cruft that is the web. The actual search engine wasn't that hard at all.

Yep - that's exactly it. Setting up the infrastructure to handle large, web-scale content analysis is the real challenge. (Shameless plug alert) That's why we setup 80legs: to help everyone not called Google/Yahoo/Microsoft to have comparable capabilities when it comes to this.

I'd hate to see your power & network bill :)

But I think that once you have enough customers the cost of 'crawling' goes down for every new customer you sign up because you only need to crawl a page once and you can sell the crawled result to many customers. Or do I misread your model and is every page crawled over and over again for every user ?

Re: Yahoo is Number One in So Much More Than Search

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Post by omouse »

jacquesm wrote: post #2

I honestly can't remember the last time I even used Yahoo. Am I alone in this or is this common ?

Flickr, Yahoo! Fantasy Sports, sometimes I check out Buzz or the news section. I do not, however, have an email account with them and all the times I've seen the search engine, the results haven't been very good.

Re: Yahoo is Number One in So Much More Than Search

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Post by [deleted] »

GeneralMaximus wrote: post #16

Yahoo! has lost its reputation within geek circles. Google have not only put out really great products, they also go to great lengths to boast about their vastly superior technologies (BigTable, MapReduce), which gets them a lot of (well-deserved) geek love. Then there are Android and Chrome (with V8), both of which are pretty exciting to hackers. Also, Summer of Code, Code Jam etc. get Google a lot of street cred. S…

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