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Ukrainian Protesters Hold Up Mirrors to Police

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Re: Ukrainian Protesters Hold Up Mirrors to Police

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post #9

> You can imagine what was going through their minds as they saw themselves in their ridiculous garb and dehumanized condition. "At least they're not throwing things." Somewhat related, I'm curious about the veracity of a "news item" for which the second Google result is a blog [1] whose header includes a lengthy quote from the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, and which appears largely to have been promulgated by a c…

I agree that it is a really crappy source. News orgainsations are also following this however.

http://www.channel4.com/news/ukraine-protests-smoke-and-mirr...

Re: Ukrainian Protesters Hold Up Mirrors to Police

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post #9

> You can imagine what was going through their minds as they saw themselves in their ridiculous garb and dehumanized condition. "At least they're not throwing things." Somewhat related, I'm curious about the veracity of a "news item" for which the second Google result is a blog [1] whose header includes a lengthy quote from the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, and which appears largely to have been promulgated by a c…

I agree that it is a really crappy source. News orgainsations are also following this however. http://www.channel4.com/news/ukraine-protests-smoke-and-mirr...

They all seem to have a great time, maybe it is working!

Re: Ukrainian Protesters Hold Up Mirrors to Police

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post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Look at me! I'm totally Judge Dredd."

Exactly. I'm grateful that I don't get downvoted for the comment btw. But sorry, this lacks any news or intellectual value whatsoever. Now if a study would emerge that mirrors as a reflective tool are a proven deterrent of riot police, this would incite some nice debates about the human psyche. I don't want to listen to some guy with dirty undies hanging on his bedpost talking about the "evil black riot police" and h…

a study would emerge that mirrors as a reflective tool are a proven deterrent of riot police

That seems to be a rather high bar to set for a rather poetic act. I take it you also do not trust parachutes.

As with many interventions intended to prevent ill health, the effectiveness of parachutes has not been subjected to rigorous evaluation by using randomised controlled trials. Advocates of evidence based medicine have criticised the adoption of interventions evaluated by using only observational data. We think that everyone might benefit if the most radical protagonists of evidence based medicine organised and participated in a double blind, randomised, placebo controlled, crossover trial of the parachute.

http://www.bmj.com/content/327/7429/1459

Re: Ukrainian Protesters Hold Up Mirrors to Police

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Unfortunately public protests are soon going to become illegal in Ukraine as the president have just signed a set of laws the basically turns the country into police state [1] [2]

[1] http://citizenjournal.info/?id=14710

[2] http://www.kyivpost.com/opinion/op-ed/welcome-to-little-russ...

Re: Ukrainian Protesters Hold Up Mirrors to Police

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post #7

I like the idea, there's a lot of thought provocation in it. Having said that, I don't like how the article belittles the riot police force. Aren't the older generation (grandma) at least partly responsible for the state in which their kids (riot police) are in? It's not like these 'thugs' were created in a vacuum and that these 'grandma's' are helpless. They were young, and they made decisions...more likely to have…

A moment's thought, had you paused to engage in same, would've led you to realize that Ukrainian grandmothers today were, in youth, governed by the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, whose regime was never particularly noted for the extent of the freedom of conscience and action it extended to its subjects.

I'm well aware of that part of history, given that I am Polish, And my main issue is the narrative of the article: 'innocent grandma' vs. 'ignorant thug kids'. As they say, sons bear the sins of their father.

and really a downvote? Did anyone read between the lines of that post and not sense the propaganda?

Re: Ukrainian Protesters Hold Up Mirrors to Police

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I like the idea, there's a lot of thought provocation in it. Having said that, I don't like how the article belittles the riot police force. Aren't the older generation (grandma) at least partly responsible for the state in which their kids (riot police) are in? It's not like these 'thugs' were created in a vacuum and that these 'grandma's' are helpless. They were young, and they made decisions...more likely to have…

Not sure why you were downvoted.

The hippies and love-children and down-with-the-man types of the 60s and 70s have been in power for the last quarter century.

They have shaped the world as they collectively see fit, and it's not that different from the one they protested against.

Re: Ukrainian Protesters Hold Up Mirrors to Police

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I like the idea, there's a lot of thought provocation in it. Having said that, I don't like how the article belittles the riot police force. Aren't the older generation (grandma) at least partly responsible for the state in which their kids (riot police) are in? It's not like these 'thugs' were created in a vacuum and that these 'grandma's' are helpless. They were young, and they made decisions...more likely to have…

Not sure why you were downvoted. The hippies and love-children and down-with-the-man types of the 60s and 70s have been in power for the last quarter century. They have shaped the world as they collectively see fit, and it's not that different from the one they protested against.

The hippies and love-children and down-with-the-man types of the 60s and 70s have been in power for the last quarter century.

In the Ukraine? Are you completely mental?

Re: Ukrainian Protesters Hold Up Mirrors to Police

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I like the idea, there's a lot of thought provocation in it. Having said that, I don't like how the article belittles the riot police force. Aren't the older generation (grandma) at least partly responsible for the state in which their kids (riot police) are in? It's not like these 'thugs' were created in a vacuum and that these 'grandma's' are helpless. They were young, and they made decisions...more likely to have…

Not sure why you were downvoted. The hippies and love-children and down-with-the-man types of the 60s and 70s have been in power for the last quarter century. They have shaped the world as they collectively see fit, and it's not that different from the one they protested against.

Thank you good sir! +1
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