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Microsoft says it's prepared to hand over Skype users' data to Russia

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Re: Microsoft says it's prepared to hand over Skype users' data to Russia

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Is that supposed to make us feel better? There was a time when Skype actually was secure, before they changed it to allow "legal intercept", but even after they did that they still refused to admit that they allow governments to have access to people's conversations. I'll never forget reading in the damn New York Times a week before Snowden leaks came out about how secure Skype was for dissidents and journalists, and…

It was never secure. Closed source and with no end-to-end encryption, so supernodes could always listen. The supernode design isn't compatible with having lots of mobile devices, that's why it was changed. It's only marginally easier to intercept.

Of course it wasn't absolutely secure, but it was designed against large scale interception and against the insider threat of lawful-interception orders.

Re: Microsoft says it's prepared to hand over Skype users' data to Russia

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Yes, where I reside unfortunately.

Why don't you move to a real corrupt & totalitarian country - say Russia - that will make you feel better about living in the UK quickly.

There are varying degrees of corrupt and totalitarian.

We're not quite Russia bad yet, but we have however run "quick processing overnight courts" to deal with hundreds of people, thrown people in jail over Twitter jokes, kept people in jail for writing articles critical of the state, used extraordinary rendition like soap, murdered people critical of the government, shot unarmed civilians, started big wars, entertained numerous fascist dictators, operate large concentration camps to keep immigrants in, control media interests through the old boys network, force slavery on unemployed people by making them work for nothing and generally act like unsociable arseholes on the world stage.

Re: Microsoft says it's prepared to hand over Skype users' data to Russia

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This shit is already a spyware (at least for Android, where it even has a permission to modify system settings). I had 40Mb of background data usage for a 5 day (in a roaming in India, that's why I have noticed) while I never switched to it .

It is less likely you will receive calls over Skype when Skype isn't connected and notifying the network of its location. On a desktop device notifications can be infrequent. Mobile devices are mobile, however.

I haven't installed Skype on Android because of the permissions it requests and for the reason that I rarely use it. But at least it's not preinstalled as are many Google apps similarly privileged.

Re: Microsoft says it's prepared to hand over Skype users' data to Russia

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Why don't you move to a real corrupt & totalitarian country - say Russia - that will make you feel better about living in the UK quickly.

Why don't you move to a real corrupt & totalitarian country - say North Korea - that will make you feel better about living in Russia quickly.

Why don't you convert to Judaism and time travel back to 1930s Germany? That'll make you feel better about living in North Korea quickly.

Re: Microsoft says it's prepared to hand over Skype users' data to Russia

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Yes, where I reside unfortunately.

Why don't you move to a real corrupt & totalitarian country - say Russia - that will make you feel better about living in the UK quickly.

Well, I am from the place, it may be quite corrupt, but by no means totalitarian, hehe ^)

Re: Microsoft says it's prepared to hand over Skype users' data to Russia

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Yes, where I reside unfortunately.

Why don't you move to a real corrupt & totalitarian country - say Russia - that will make you feel better about living in the UK quickly.

Well, we are doing pretty well on the corruption front. I don't get the impression that we are as corrupt as Russia, but then again, we are not rebuilding from utter collapse.

In 2003 Operation Tiberius found that men suspected of being Britain’s most notorious criminals had compromised multiple agencies, including HM Revenue & Customs, the Crown Prosecution Service, the City of London Police and the Prison Service, as well as pillars of the criminal justice system including juries and the legal profession.

The strategic intelligence scoping exercise – “ratified by the most senior management” at the Met – uncovered jurors being bought off or threatened to return not-guilty verdicts; corrupt individuals working for HMRC, both in the UK and overseas; and “get out of jail free cards” being bought for £50,000.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/the-corruptio...

Re: Microsoft says it's prepared to hand over Skype users' data to Russia

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It was never secure. Closed source and with no end-to-end encryption, so supernodes could always listen. The supernode design isn't compatible with having lots of mobile devices, that's why it was changed. It's only marginally easier to intercept.

Of course it wasn't absolutely secure, but it was designed against large scale interception and against the insider threat of lawful-interception orders.

Not really, no. There was nothing preventing the NSA from running lots of supernodes, just like they run lots of tor exit nodes.

If it offered anything at all, it was a false sense of security.

Re: Microsoft says it's prepared to hand over Skype users' data to Russia

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So everyone's business has to change to meet the most restrictive country's laws? What next, the internet is ruled by sharia law? I guess thats what happens when global companies become the only choice, no matter what your country allows, we have to do what Elbonia wants.
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