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That is the argument. Obscure kernel and driver bugs are frequently only made apparent as edge cases on said ancient weird hardware, but the fixes benefit all platforms from a code-correctness point-of-view.
But many of those old hardware platforms can be emulated. So if their reason of existence is only triggering edge cases, there are other ways to do so.
Then again, it's possible that emulation could surface other edge case issues. That's completely orthogonal to the value of non-emulated archaic architectures for this purpose, however.
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That is the argument. Obscure kernel and driver bugs are frequently only made apparent as edge cases on said ancient weird hardware, but the fixes benefit all platforms from a code-correctness point-of-view.
But many of those old hardware platforms can be emulated. So if their reason of existence is only triggering edge cases, there are other ways to do so.
Some of the architectures also have different endianess and incredibly complicated peripherals to the cost effective host machines as well meaning that it's actually more power efficient to run native. A headless 100MHz VAXstation for example draws less power than the equivalent host that would be required to provide a full, accurate emulation with peripherals. These aren't arcade machines.
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You appear not to realise that SGI hardware contains MIPS CPUs. A large amount of code is shared between these platforms: http://www.openbsd.org/sgi.html http://www.openbsd.org/octeon.html http://www.openbsd.org/loongson.html A mips32 port would also be very desirable for all those shitty little routers with their ancient Linux kernel, but sadly nobody is working on that at the moment. So, should the network and fire…
Good point, I didn't know MIPS is still used in the embedded space, I thought it was all ARM these days. But OpenBSD could be testing on an embedded MIPS development device at any data center they want.
Sony Bravia EX series televisions are MIPS and Linux based for example.
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There seems to be a trend that most *BSDs are having donation problems and missed 2013 budgets. For example [1], [2] I encourage all to donate to our BSD friends. We all benefit from their work. [1] https://www.freebsdfoundation.org [2] http://www.netbsd.org/donations/
Makes me wonder, though. There are plenty of fairly large commercial offerings based on those systems. The corporations using them (e.g. Sony, Apple) could probably easily afford a million in donations.
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I think if you're openly soliciting donations under the premise that they're essential to keeping the project running at all, you can put up with the people you're trying to get money out of asking questions to ensure that the money you're asking for really is as needed as you say it is.
Not Theo. He clearly says things like "that's not up for discussion", "I'm not going into details", etc. If anyone ever truly deserved the title BDFL...
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A somewhat related note about branding. My first "real" job was in the mid-90's; I was the first technical hire at a small Chicago ISP (EnterAct) that grew into a relatively large ISP (when I left, we were default-free peered to several tier-1 providers and had more POPs than I can name). It was great, and the team that started it --- two Big-5 accounting firm programmers --- was inspiring, particularly when it came…
> And at some point in the last 10 years, didn't OpenBSD's distro servers get owned up? Yes, a cvs bug I believe. No kernel will protect you from bad user-mode code that really wants to execute everybody's shell script. > Among security research insiders, OpenBSD's reputation became a little bit farcical. I spent lots of time looking through the OpenBSD Kernel, togheter with FreeBSD and Linux kernel. It was my job fo…
Missing entirely the point of the parent post. I can claim anything is secure if I seal it in enough concrete.
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The AC instructions note made me smile. It reminded me of a post-it I left in the company lab with a diagram for how to do proper gigabit cross-overs. I could still find it there five years later after they rearranged the lab several times.
I thought most (if not all) gigabit Ethernet implementations auto-detect host-to-host connections and handle the crossover for you.
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There seems to be a trend that most *BSDs are having donation problems and missed 2013 budgets. For example [1], [2] I encourage all to donate to our BSD friends. We all benefit from their work. [1] https://www.freebsdfoundation.org [2] http://www.netbsd.org/donations/
Makes me wonder, though. There are plenty of fairly large commercial offerings based on those systems. The corporations using them (e.g. Sony, Apple) could probably easily afford a million in donations.
I'm excited about buying a cupcake from one of the OpenBSD developers at the bake sale.