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California woman who drove with Google Glass beats traffic ticket

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Re: California woman who drove with Google Glass beats traffic ticket

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post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm going to say that it is entirely unreasonable for the police to be ignorant of the law.

Law is complicated. No one has full knowledge of it. Even lawyers and judges need to look stuff up.

That's why police officers aren't Judge Dredd. It's really a character question whether a police officer subjects someone to defending themselves in a case like this, especially as part of a speeding ticket. Wait until there's an accident or something where it might play a role. That is, if they can keep their ego in check.

Re: California woman who drove with Google Glass beats traffic ticket

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post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> in the case of the phone, the officer never has proof that the phone was on. The phone company does.

No, the phone company has evidence that it communicated with tower within some period of time. The phone could still be powered up in a disconnected state, or communicating with the same tower before the driver got into the car, or.. (insert 20 other possible mitigating circumstances) It's not that simple. Which is one of the reasons it's a good thing this was dismissed.

Well, his implication was that if you're talking on the phone to somebody the phone company knows (or if you just sent a text, for example).

Re: California woman who drove with Google Glass beats traffic ticket

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Does Google Glass have some visible indicator whether it's on, similar to webcams? If not I think this should be added as soon as possible, in fact I believe it should be the law for any video camera switched on in public places.

You can see that there's an image on the glass if you're facing the user, but you have to be fairly close.

Re: California woman who drove with Google Glass beats traffic ticket

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Some research needs to be done on how distracting Glass is to drivers. I'm particularly interested in comparing the distraction caused by using Glass to navigate compared to the typical built-in navigation systems that ship with most cars today. I suspect that Glass would beat out the Garmins and Tomtoms.

Giving our office's Glass to people to test, they're so distracted that they'll walk into things. Sometimes these things are pillars clearly visible at eye level.

I personally hate the idea of drivers wearing these things. My undergraduate was in psychology, neurophysiology, and hence I've been formally trained in attention and perception - I've got a better idea than layfolk on how these are compromised, though I'm not a professional in the field. In my opinion, the Glass is a significant attentional split - which is bad for driving. One example: say voice control is working fine (it doesn't always). You still have to take your eyes off the road, target a small reticle, make sure the glass is responding correctly. Even after that, there's still issues like just having a phone call in the car, which regardless of the device is a driving-performance-reducing attentional split.

Glass really, really impresses me as a technological feat; as a product I think it's a solution looking for a problem; and as a social phenomenon, I think it's quite dangerous when mixed with common activities like driving.

Re: California woman who drove with Google Glass beats traffic ticket

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post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm going to say that it is entirely unreasonable for the police to be ignorant of the law.

Law is complicated. No one has full knowledge of it. Even lawyers and judges need to look stuff up.

The Virginia Beach law lecturer with the great 'Don't talk to cops' video on youtube mentions that the federal government doesn't even know how much written law there is - they can't catalogue it all.

Re: California woman who drove with Google Glass beats traffic ticket

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post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> in the case of the phone, the officer never has proof that the phone was on. The phone company does.

No, the phone company has evidence that it communicated with tower within some period of time. The phone could still be powered up in a disconnected state, or communicating with the same tower before the driver got into the car, or.. (insert 20 other possible mitigating circumstances) It's not that simple. Which is one of the reasons it's a good thing this was dismissed.

The expense of pulling phone records will outweigh the traffic ticket anyway, and neither party would be particularly interested in going that way.

Re: California woman who drove with Google Glass beats traffic ticket

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Highway Patrol Officer Keith Odle testified that he estimated Abadie had been driving her Toyota Prius at 85 miles per hour (137 km/h) in a 65 mph (105 km/h) zone when he pulled her over. Case dismissed. Oh and Officer you're being suspended without pay for falsifying evidence, everyone knows a Prius can't go that fast.

"Woz gets $700 speeding ticket for doing 104 MPH in Toyota Prius" (http://macdailynews.com/2007/08/21/woz_gets_700_speeding_tic...)

Re: California woman who drove with Google Glass beats traffic ticket

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post #20

How is the Glass' HUD any different than the ones that get projected on windshields?[1] [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCTrsQaiD-0

Glass will play, amongst other things, video. It doesn't have the built in protections that video-playing car stereos have for not showing video while the vehicle is in motion.

Re: California woman who drove with Google Glass beats traffic ticket

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Highway Patrol Officer Keith Odle testified that he estimated Abadie had been driving her Toyota Prius at 85 miles per hour (137 km/h) in a 65 mph (105 km/h) zone when he pulled her over. Case dismissed. Oh and Officer you're being suspended without pay for falsifying evidence, everyone knows a Prius can't go that fast.

Google says that the top speed for a Prius is 112.

There are few if any cars that can't reach 85 mph sold in the last decade in California.

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