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Yale students made a better version of its course catalog. Yale shut it down

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Re: Yale students made a better version of its course catalog. Yale shut it down

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Academia, and the Ivy League in particular, prides itself on being rigorously open, on providing broad access to all knowledge to advance intellectualism. In this regard, academic institutions often attack governments and corporations that intend to limit its free speech, but on the rare chance that this spirit of openness works against the institution, they take a hard liner approach to censoring it. The basic reaso…

The concept of tenure is definitely somewhat controversial, but it is incredibly difficult and rare to fire tenured professors. I doubt you could cite many if any examples of professors losing tenure because they're not publishing. (Although sure professors who don't publish probably won't receive tenure in the first place)

Re: Yale students made a better version of its course catalog. Yale shut it down

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Academia, and the Ivy League in particular, prides itself on being rigorously open, on providing broad access to all knowledge to advance intellectualism. In this regard, academic institutions often attack governments and corporations that intend to limit its free speech, but on the rare chance that this spirit of openness works against the institution, they take a hard liner approach to censoring it. The basic reaso…

The concept of tenure is definitely somewhat controversial, but it is incredibly difficult and rare to fire tenured professors. I doubt you could cite many if any examples of professors losing tenure because they're not publishing. (Although sure professors who don't publish probably won't receive tenure in the first place)

I assume that OP meant:

> If a professor doesn't publish, he/she can lose [a chance to gain] tenure

Re: Yale students made a better version of its course catalog. Yale shut it down

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Why not just limit access to validated students?

This is a simple question that very likely has no simple answer. They probably have a mess of different identity management solutions within the various departments, schools, and collaborators; with lots of really old security policies. It's possible no one even realized there was a hole until these guys made their site.

Unable to figure out a deep security solution fast enough to keep up with a couple of young hackers, they shut the site down instead.

Re: Yale students made a better version of its course catalog. Yale shut it down

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Some Berkeley students developed a similar service called Ninja Courses[1]. This lets you browse through classes, order textbooks and also shows ratings. (Although all the ratings are submitted by Ninja Courses users, I believe.) It can even automatically build a schedule for you by choosing lectures and sections that don't overlap, optimizing based on user preferences. For example: do you want more morning classes,…

RIT also has a similar service [1] there's a new ui in the works for the spring, but it's interesting to see how widespread this issue is. Also I have to say RIT has done an awesome job if coordinating with the devs, they give a CVS dump of their course database periodically.

[1] http://schedule.csh.rit.edu

Re: Yale students made a better version of its course catalog. Yale shut it down

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Seriously, reading this article it's almost as if they're deliberately re-enacting Harvard's response to houseSYSTEM (which included course reviews, scheduling features, and of course, The Facebook) from 11 years ago. It really says something about institutional behavior. There must be some kind of Independent Thinking Students Emergency Playbook they hand out in elite university administrations.

As then-President Summmers said on September 15, 2005, “We are a community that is committed to the authority of ideas, rather than to the idea of authority.” What a perfect line to summarize their utter hypocrisy.

http://www.aarongreenspan.com/authoritas.html

Re: Yale students made a better version of its course catalog. Yale shut it down

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ASP.net? What sorcery! My undergrad website was developed in classic ASP. Our version control was copying files to a networked shared folder. For an example of how utterly fucked classic ASP is: it has no API for accessing file uploads. If you code it yourself, it disables all of the rest of the parsing (query string, form variables, ...), which you then also have to code yourself. Not to mention the whole "hasn't be…

Who would want to upload files via the HTML standard? Shouldn't you be using some sort of SOAP API with an ActiveX control? Or maybe the users should login to their local ActiveDirectory server and transfer the file to a shared folder via SMB/CIFS. /s

The hair on my neck was raising up until I got to the /s

Well played.

Re: Yale students made a better version of its course catalog. Yale shut it down

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This bring back memories. I did the same thing at my university way back when - especially back when people still didn't bother to develop for iPhones.

I imagine they were afraid that people would get the wrong information, which is fair in a way, but if Yale's website was anything like my university's, then the website would far outweigh the alternative.

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