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Re: Rap Genius is Back on Google

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Post by myzerox » Tue, Jan 14, 2014, 11:41 PM UTC

dclara wrote: post #194

myzerox wrote: post #106

This is a relief. RG certainly gives the best search results for a lot of queries. This whole story made me fear that Google was choosing power over user experience. And that should never be the case, no matter how offending the founders of RG might appear sometimes. Don't be evil!

Is there a smell of corruption? Because it is in favor of power, connections instead of user voting, just like in favor of dictation over democracy. Isn't it?

Fair voters = valid pages linking to RapGenius

Bought voters = manipulated SEO spam blog posts

Fair voters >> bought voters

Not reacting to the SEO manipulation would have meant accepting a fraction of bought voters.

Banning RG completely would have meant to ignore the even bigger fraction of valid voters.

Google's actual decision seems to be the most democratic: Forcing RG to decrease the number of bought voters while not dictating over the voice of the valid voters.

Re: Rap Genius is Back on Google

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Post by dclara » Wed, Jan 15, 2014, 7:23 PM UTC

myzerox wrote: post #201

dclara wrote: post #194

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there a smell of corruption? Because it is in favor of power, connections instead of user voting, just like in favor of dictation over democracy. Isn't it?

Fair voters = valid pages linking to RapGenius Bought voters = manipulated SEO spam blog posts Fair voters >> bought voters Not reacting to the SEO manipulation would have meant accepting a fraction of bought voters. Banning RG completely would have meant to ignore the even bigger fraction of valid voters. Google's actual decision seems to be the most democratic: Forcing RG to decrease the number of bought voters whi…

You have an interesting point. But it's hard to say:

Fair voters always greater greater than bought voters. When you buy backlinks from the SEO consulting service, they gave you hundreds or thousands everyday, just like some people complained in the comments.

"Google's actual decision seems to be the most democratic: Forcing RG to decrease the number of bought voters while not dictating over the voice of the valid voters."

The problem is: how can they tell which is which?

I doubt this type of criteria is reliable. I collected some information from the user comments along with other research and wrote a blog post here:

http://bingobo.info/blog/bingobo/what-are-the-current-seo-pr...

Maybe you will also take a look at the possible solutions here:

http://bingobo.info/blog/bingobo/how-bingobo-can-help-busine...

Re: Rap Genius is Back on Google

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Post by [deleted] » Wed, Jan 15, 2014, 7:24 PM UTC

myzerox wrote: post #201

dclara wrote: post #194

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there a smell of corruption? Because it is in favor of power, connections instead of user voting, just like in favor of dictation over democracy. Isn't it?

Fair voters = valid pages linking to RapGenius Bought voters = manipulated SEO spam blog posts Fair voters >> bought voters Not reacting to the SEO manipulation would have meant accepting a fraction of bought voters. Banning RG completely would have meant to ignore the even bigger fraction of valid voters. Google's actual decision seems to be the most democratic: Forcing RG to decrease the number of bought voters whi…

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