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Re: USA ISP Speed Index

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I live in San Francisco and I have exactly the same issue, it started happening more recently. Speedtest is 35mbit down/10mbit up

I wonder if some form of traffic obfuscation would help in your endeavor? For instance, setup OpenVPN on a VPS or something, and tunnel to connect to Netflix. It would be a shame if you end up with better quality.

Doesn't even need to be as complicated as OpenVPN. SSH has an option to expose a tunnel as a SOCKS proxy.

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#53
post #10

I wonder why Canada is never on this? Our ISPs deserve a little public humiliation.

Right! I even entered /canada manually but it seems like they just don't measure it. Though humiliation means nothing to the Big Three but it is still fun to watch how horrible our internet providers are.

I actually have an amazing ISP (start.ca, uses Rogers' cable network, but with their own peering infrastructure behind it)

I always hear about people saying "I can't play YouTube videos!" or like the comments above this "Netflix keeps buffering!". I've had absolutely zero issues like that.

But, I'm starting to think that people's issues with their home internet comes down to their network setup. I have the fast Asus RT-N66u with Tomato firmware, good QoS rules, Apple TV wired and not wireless, etc.

Maybe some of these folks have the crappy gateway from the ISP, or really bad wireless environments, or bad cabling.

Case in point, I was at a person's house the other day who wasn't even aware that their DSL connection from Bell was disconnecting every 5-10 mins for 30secs or so (probably due to bad phone lines in the old building).

But they went on watching Netflix and checking their email totally unaware. So Netflix drops it quality or buffers a little then continues on it's way and people go "Oh man, my ISP sucks! Netflix is always buffering!"

I bet there's a good business in going around to people's homes to fix network issues.

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#54
We have Cox in my state, and I have been incredibly impressed with how reliable they are for Internet. It's refreshing to just take my connectivity for granted and not even remember the last time I've had issues or slowdowns.

The only real downside is that when I recommend Cox to friends, I have to be very careful how I say it.

Re: USA ISP Speed Index

#55
post #38

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Contrariwise, I have Sonic's "Fusion" bonded ADSL in SF. My modem and Speedtest.net report around 12/2 Mbits down/up, and both Netflix and Amazon Prime consistently stream flawless HD for me.

poking around, it seems Sonic is part of Open Connect. I would expect that to explain a lot.

For Netflix yes, but I doubt that explains Amazon Prime.

Re: USA ISP Speed Index

#56

hmm. comcast dropped from 2.17 to 1.63 mbps YOY. awesome. luckily, speedtest.net shows me a lot higher than that... 25mbps, to be precise. Edit: I see Netflix has tweaked their results to use 'Prime Time' readings only. I guess I should retest this evening as well.

Speedtest results are completely irrelevant because Netflix uses Level 3 as CDN and bandwidth between Level 3 and Comcast is always 100% utilized at prime time.

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#57
post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Right! I even entered /canada manually but it seems like they just don't measure it. Though humiliation means nothing to the Big Three but it is still fun to watch how horrible our internet providers are.

I actually have an amazing ISP (start.ca, uses Rogers' cable network, but with their own peering infrastructure behind it) I always hear about people saying "I can't play YouTube videos!" or like the comments above this "Netflix keeps buffering!". I've had absolutely zero issues like that. But, I'm starting to think that people's issues with their home internet comes down to their network setup. I have the fast Asus…

Yeah. I agree. I was with start.ca Rogers cable on the 150/10 plan and at that point you really need gigabit or 802.11ac to feel the speed of your home internet. Luckily I've both, and switched back to Rogers to have a go with their 250/20 plan. I sometimes feel like I'm the only one on HN satisfied with my ISP. Even if I'm paying too much for it ($125.99/mth), consistent downloads of 270-320mbps and an uplink of 20mbps with a terabyte bandwidth cap is nothing to sneeze at. I suppose I've Teksavvy/start to thank for it. I still highly recommend start.ca for those that aren't as insane about speed as I am :) But don't get me started on people who use the ISP's free email address and so cannot switch...

Re: USA ISP Speed Index

#58

Why no latency measurements?

My guess is because latency is not relevant when it comes to streaming videos from Netflix. A consumer will not be able to notice their video took 40 milliseconds longer to start streaming. They will, however, notice when the video stops to buffer every 10-15 minutes because their ISP can't keep up with the throughput.

Latency matters depending on the video player. At 1080p I find FLV streaming services with encryption tend to fall over unless your Internet connection is silly fast, including latency. Any delay, due to poor protocols or poor playback software, will cause the video to stop and rebuffer. Then again, perhaps the video is coming from sufficiently far away that in a live stream, I'd be right on the borderline of watchable if my ping on the wider internet spikes too much. Eh, what can I say. Every time I can boost the speed tier on my cable line, it seems to slightly improve ping and dramatically improve the reliability of my connection. Perhaps the longer things are transferring on the internet the more likely I'll see variability during the transfer?

Re: USA ISP Speed Index

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post #54

We have Cox in my state, and I have been incredibly impressed with how reliable they are for Internet. It's refreshing to just take my connectivity for granted and not even remember the last time I've had issues or slowdowns. The only real downside is that when I recommend Cox to friends, I have to be very careful how I say it.

After living in a Comcast stronghold for > a decade, I was flabbergasted at how ... decent Cox is, in terms of both quality and customer service. I'm still waiting with baited breath for them to realize that they can get away with more and pull one on me.

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#60
post #17

I have Comcast home internet in the bay area (Speedtest is around 30mbit down/8 mbit up) and every time I try to watch anything on Netflix it buffers for a minute and the resolution usually stays unacceptably low (320p?!) while usually having to buffer again every 2-5 minutes, sometimes for the whole run time of the show. Meanwhile, Comcast's own XFINITY streaming service delivers instantly (no buffering) at full HD…

In the bay area, do look at sonic.net; there are real limitations to their last mile connectivity (ADSL line shared including in Remote Terminals, or ADSL2 from Central Offices, and a couple small Fiber installs), but they have very good connectivity once you get in.

I could rant about network neutrality... Comcast may not be (and probably isn't) doing anything to degrade Netflix's ability to stream to you; but they're probably also not making as many upgrades to peering or transit capacity as they could for that traffic.

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