Do they own patents or something? Because with a $10 android chip, any Chinese plant could churn out Nest clones in a few months.
The tricky part is getting it on the shelves at Home Depot or Lowes. Nest threw a lot of money at Home Depot, if the dedicated end caps I've seen for the last couple of years are any indication.
Google to Acquire Nest
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#502Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm not convinced they're as much jokes as real concerns by people who have already been burned by this (see: YouTube -- I'm not going to argue about whether or not G+ integration has made these products better, but it's not unreasonable to not want your real-name associated with comments you made under a pseudonym, and to be so annoyingly pestered to do so!)
Google+ is Google's social layer. Commenting is an inherently social activity and it makes sense to have a common layer i.e. G+ here to handle them. Changing the temperature is not a social activity. So no the jokes are not real concerns and are mostly silly intellectually lazy exaggerations.
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#503Am I the only one who thought "well, good for the Nest guys" followed by "too bad, it looked like a good product"?
Yeah, motorola products have completely gone down the toilet after that acquisition. They were so great before with fast updates and a wonderful skin of android, and now they're either non-innovative or way too overpriced for the value.
2) end your comment with '/s' [most people know this means the previous comment was meant as sarcasm. it should be the preferred method of communicating sarcasm and the sentiment that the referenced recipient is obviously wrong]
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I thought "Good for the Nest gu...HOLY CRAP GOOGLE PAID $3.2 BILLION FOR A THERMOSTAT COMPANY"
Actually believe it or not but this is a very very expensive acqu-hire. First engineer on the IPhone team? Father of the IPOD? given the size of the smartphone industry and given what apple has become because of the iphone one could argue that the dude is worth half a billion.
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#505I'm happy for Nest but sad for myself, given the smoke detector was my Christmas gift last year. Previously I would look to YouTube as an acquisition done right. But after the kerfuffle around G+ integration, I no longer feel that way. If I have to sign in with my G+ account to manage my smoke alarm, it's going directly into the rubbish bin. If Apple had bought Nest, on the other hand, I'd feel very differently.
Had Apple bought nest, you'd have to log into your icloud account to manage it, via your idevice, with no other management abilities available. Apple is absolutely horrible at playing well with others.
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If i'm not mistaken, Google has been dipping it's toes in home automation for some time. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_PowerMeter http://mobilesyrup.com/2013/12/17/google-dipping-its-toe-int... To acquire home statistics. Can you imagine the personal data gathering? And the $ value attached to that data? All sweetened with sugar for you to buy the product, connect, and give your data for free. Oh how I would lo…
Yeah, if you're on the cynical side of the whole "Google is co-opted by the government to help track and control the populace" idea, which you have no reason not to be after the NSA leaks, it is absolutely terrifying.
The analogy here is something like the OnStar system in recent cars. I don't think that many people who made it happen primarily did so to give the banks a way to find and repo cars, but once a large percentage of cars have this system it does enable banks to do it much more efficiently. Not to mention what the authorities can do with these same systems.
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#507well, stick in a fork in Nest then. wonder how bad their financials were when they're already selling. fucking SnapChat refused a FB offer, but Nest just rolls over and dies.
What you meant to say was that nest isn't run by idiots that are stupid enough to turn down a 3 billion dollar offer.
turns out it's just another boring let's get rich story.
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> You're misinformed. Indeed. From this review: http://www.amazon.com/Honeywell-RET97A5E1001-U-Wi-Fi-Thermos... > And the Nest doesn't have a Hold Temperature option, which is a feature even a $25 thermostat has. The final Nest deal-breaker for me is the +-3 degree temperature swing. If you set it to 72, it will keep the temperature between 69 and 75, a total of 6 degree swing, which sucks compared to the +-1 degree…
That's a shame. He probably misled quite a few people into buying the Honeywell by being the top review. He admittedly never owned a Nest, and that's obvious in his comparison, as not a single point in it is accurate; one must wonder where he came up with them having no first-hand experience. * If Nest isn't on a schedule (whether it's a manually set schedule or the "auto-schedule"), it's holding temp. Like every oth…
Who knows? Maybe it was written by a Honeywell shill. Worked on me apparently.
I will note one other difference which helped sway me to Honeywell is the fact that the Nest requires a battery, while the Honeywell requires "bus" power. I actually didn't have a "C wire" set up before I installed mine, but it was trivial to climb into the attic and re-purpose the fan control wire to instead provide constant (24VAC) power.
Granted, changing thermostat batteries wasn't really at the top of my pet peeve list, but I did read that the Nest has the potential to suck batteries dry too quickly. Any opinion on battery life?
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#509$3.2 BILLION?! Was Nest Labs making a profit? Seemed to me like they made cool devices that no one bought.
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That's a shame. He probably misled quite a few people into buying the Honeywell by being the top review. He admittedly never owned a Nest, and that's obvious in his comparison, as not a single point in it is accurate; one must wonder where he came up with them having no first-hand experience. * If Nest isn't on a schedule (whether it's a manually set schedule or the "auto-schedule"), it's holding temp. Like every oth…
> That's a shame. Who knows? Maybe it was written by a Honeywell shill. Worked on me apparently. I will note one other difference which helped sway me to Honeywell is the fact that the Nest requires a battery, while the Honeywell requires "bus" power. I actually didn't have a "C wire" set up before I installed mine, but it was trivial to climb into the attic and re-purpose the fan control wire to instead provide cons…
It has a permanent internal battery, charged by the power wire, which allows it to stay active in a power failure and to use more power than some systems provide when you're interacting with its screen. So there's no real difference between the Nest and the Honeywell in terms of power or installation except that the Nest has a built-in rechargeable li-ion backup battery.
Here's how mine's wired, courtesy the mobile app again: http://i.imgur.com/Rls9EZk.png