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Re: Google to Acquire Nest

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Post by fotbr »

jrwoodruff wrote: post #379
MrZongle2 wrote: post #11

Am I the only one who thought "well, good for the Nest guys" followed by "too bad, it looked like a good product"?

No, my first thought was "wow, good for the Nest guys" followed by "too bad, I really don't want Google Analytics hanging on my wall."

Exactly my thoughts as well. Since I've never been keen on Google's ambitions to rival the various alphabet-soup agencies on what they know about everyone, I guess I can cross that off the list of upgrades I'll be doing when I replace the heater this spring.

Re: Google to Acquire Nest

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Post by shitlord »

Aaronn wrote: post #95
psbp wrote: post #66

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Yeah, motorola products have completely gone down the toilet after that acquisition. They were so great before with fast updates and a wonderful skin of android, and now they're either non-innovative or way too overpriced for the value.

The Moto X and G are a really GOOD value...

I hope the next Nexus phone is made by Motorola. I really like the body of their devices. I wanted to get a Moto X developer edition but it was too expensive, unfortunately.

Re: Google to Acquire Nest

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Post by tszyn »

sliverstorm wrote: post #82
chrisrhoden wrote: post #34

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What about the ability to know when someone is in your home and when someone is not? If Google records that data (say, to be able to provide you with a handy chart of your energy use and some ways to improve it), the potential I am more worried about is the fact that the data exists makes it possible to subpoena.

I'm not really worried about subpoena of my data- if the courts want it, they will get it. I'd be more concerned about what private companies are going to do with it. I know the gov't is the big bogeyman in most people's minds, but sometimes I swear private corps. have even less accountability than the gov't.

The parent's point was that courts can only get data that are in Google's possession. Every time you give sensitive data to a third party, you make it easy for the government to get their hands on it.

Re: Google to Acquire Nest

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Post by Jare »

cloudwalking wrote: post #359
smackfu wrote: post #181

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Has the Instagram acquisition had any negatives for the consumer?

Yes, photos are no longer embedded in tweets.

Which means I don't see them anymore, which means I don't cringe at the filter abuse... Wait, actually, this HAS improved things for my particular tastes. :) But yeah, this is a pretty good example because the link between the acquisition and the damage to the product / end user is very obvious.

Re: Google to Acquire Nest

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Post by clarky07 »

dsl wrote: post #390
gdilla wrote: post #293

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Everyone who's complaining about how much Nests costs have obviously not graduated from college tastes into the world of interior decorating. There is a huge market for nice looking stuff to go in your house. Not everyone buys Ikea for their whole lives. Maybe they host parties, run in upper middle class social circles, etc. There's $10K kitchen ranges out there, $50 beer mugs. etc. Design can carry premiums in this…

$200 is simply a terrible price fit. The rich buy $10k+ systems, the poor buy $20 units at Home Depot. There is no middle class in america, only credit.

That's a nice talking point for politicians, but it's not true. There is plenty of middle class in America.

Re: Google to Acquire Nest

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Post by jager »

Steko wrote: post #310
arikrak wrote: post #127

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Yeah, and like Android and Youtube. Sarcasm aside, Google has actually done pretty well with acquisitions compared to other companies. (Say ones that begin with "M" or "Y"). You can see the list in wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mergers_and_acquisition...

YouTube was fine when Google wrote checks and got out of the way. Now Larry and co. have their hands all over it and YT is slowly going to shit... from the G+ spam to the annotation spam and of course you need to sign in to keep them turned off (lol maybe!), to "hey let's make you rebuffer the whole video you just watched" to just horrid performance drops in general to "hey we found a way to make YT comments even wor…

+1,000,000

comments, ads, channels, even the way the video buffers is annoying smfh

Re: Google to Acquire Nest

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Post by marcosdumay »

angryasian wrote: post #339
Steko wrote: post #310

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YouTube was fine when Google wrote checks and got out of the way. Now Larry and co. have their hands all over it and YT is slowly going to shit... from the G+ spam to the annotation spam and of course you need to sign in to keep them turned off (lol maybe!), to "hey let's make you rebuffer the whole video you just watched" to just horrid performance drops in general to "hey we found a way to make YT comments even wor…

while its hard to argue with your point. YT is a huge revenue generating product. Now more than ever Google is probably being pressured by the "content owners" and trying to balance the need for creators to market their channels and helping them grow through questionable content. I think with a mature, product like YT its understandable.

I understand the ads, and they blocking videos just because somebody passed aroung listenning to a music. I don't care about comments at all, thus I don't even know how they changed...

But what I'm unable to accept is why the client won't let me buffer a video and erases everything just as soon as it's diplayed on the screen. It does not make downloading the content any harder - all it does is making me download the videos, whatch them and delete, because the official player sucks.

Re: Google to Acquire Nest

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Post by dangrossman »

lstamour wrote: post #218
mortenjorck wrote: post #129

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Google Analytics └ Audience └ Interests └ Other └ Ambient Temperature Preferences

lol ... I can see the ads now: Power outage? Bring 11ºC up to 20ºC. Hotel rooms from $109. Get an energy audit and stop those 3ºC/hr leaks, save $X/year. Broken furnace? Call XXX-XXX-XXXX now. Though ... indoor & outdoor temperature would be a fun addition to Google Now. And imagine if the Google Nest was a mini-server for home automation?

Nest can't really act as a server for anything; it has insufficient power supply, probably under a watt. It can't even run its own tiny LCD screen on the power supplied by HVAC wiring. It uses that to charge an internal battery to run the screen when needed, and otherwise only partially wakes to poll the network occasionally.

Re: Google to Acquire Nest

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Post by seregine »

VLM wrote: post #240
nikhizzle wrote: post #162

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I made the money back heating my house in the bay area in 5 months. The Nest is just much better at using energy efficiently.

That's a savings of $60 on heating per month, for five months. The laws of thermodynamics continue to be enforced regardless of bubble or not, so I think it quite impossible to save more than 10%. So you're averaging $600 or more to heat. Averaging... I live in Wisconsin where I would be hard pressed to spend $300/month during the worst imaginable weather (and this is five months... the worst imaginable weather is ..…

In the Bay Area, electricity is priced in tiers, so depending on your usage you can spend 50% of your bill on 10% of the electricity.

http://www.pge.com/myhome/myaccount/charges/

Re: Google to Acquire Nest

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Post by gjm11 »

dsl wrote: post #390
gdilla wrote: post #293

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Everyone who's complaining about how much Nests costs have obviously not graduated from college tastes into the world of interior decorating. There is a huge market for nice looking stuff to go in your house. Not everyone buys Ikea for their whole lives. Maybe they host parties, run in upper middle class social circles, etc. There's $10K kitchen ranges out there, $50 beer mugs. etc. Design can carry premiums in this…

$200 is simply a terrible price fit. The rich buy $10k+ systems, the poor buy $20 units at Home Depot. There is no middle class in america, only credit.

> There is no middle class in America

... said someone in a forum occupied mostly by middle class people from America.

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