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Never Going Back - A Week of Not Eating Lunch at My Desk

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Re: Never Going Back - A Week of Not Eating Lunch at My Desk

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Another point to consider is that eating at your desk could be a major source of illness: your phone, tablet, mouse, keyboard, etc., are all great sources for all sorts of germs.

Putting that into greater perspective with some data: studies have shown your desk environment to have 400 times more bacteria than toilet seats.

Should we be worried by that? I presume there's some qualitative differences between desk-dwelling bacteria and toilet-seat-dwelling bacteria.

Re: Never Going Back - A Week of Not Eating Lunch at My Desk

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Sometimes I like to eat lunch at my desk, other times I eat in the dining area with co-workers, and other times I eat out. Why does it need to be an all or nothing proposition? There are days when I'm very busy on a problem and I don't want the distraction of taking lunch so I'll either eat it at my desk or eat something low impact like a protein bar/shake. Alternatively when I get stuck on a problem I'll take a long…

I think the all-or-nothing attitude is an attempt by many people to play against their own psychology.

For many people, "I'll just do whatever I feel like each day" is problematic, because the moment right before lunch isn't their brain's best time to make that decision. In that moment, the task at hand looms large in their attention, so they are disproportionately tempted to submit to it and keep working. The benefits of taking the break are somewhere out in the future, they're abstract, and even if you intellectually believe in the benefits, it can be easy to discount them, right there, in that moment. The task at hand is right there, right then, very concrete, no discount.

For such people, all-or-nothing is a way for them to make a decision ahead of time, in a moment of less stress and greater foresight, and perhaps commit themselves to it in a way that takes the decision out of their hands in their weaker moments. They may not come out ahead every day, but if the strategy works, they should come out ahead in the long run.

Re: Never Going Back - A Week of Not Eating Lunch at My Desk

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Putting that into greater perspective with some data: studies have shown your desk environment to have 400 times more bacteria than toilet seats.

Should we be worried by that? I presume there's some qualitative differences between desk-dwelling bacteria and toilet-seat-dwelling bacteria.

Great question. To be honest, when I was doing my research I was able to come across multiple quotations of a study talking about these numbers. However, attempts to actually find a copy of the study in question led me to two different dead links. It's why I didn't bring it up in my blog post. I simply couldn't find a copy of the source; as compelling as a statement regarding toilet seats may be.

I hate that it's so hard to find a copy of an academic study.

Should you a find a copy of the study that explored and expounded upon this, I would love to see a link.

Re: Never Going Back - A Week of Not Eating Lunch at My Desk

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Sometimes I like to eat lunch at my desk, other times I eat in the dining area with co-workers, and other times I eat out. Why does it need to be an all or nothing proposition? There are days when I'm very busy on a problem and I don't want the distraction of taking lunch so I'll either eat it at my desk or eat something low impact like a protein bar/shake. Alternatively when I get stuck on a problem I'll take a long…

I don't think it has to be an all or nothing thing. Do whats right for you!

But I definitely know some people do it out of guilt. Indulging themselves, and their co-workers in Productivity Theater.

Re: Never Going Back - A Week of Not Eating Lunch at My Desk

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A somewhat different perspective exists in India. Most large corporations (and a large number of startups too) dissuade people from eating at their desks. Because most Indians love and eat cooked food, which, well, tends to give off the odours of cooked food. An entire floor eating cooked food at their desks will inevitably lead to a lingering odour that settles over everything & everyone.

So many of us have two options - eat out at a nearby eatery, or eat your prepared lunch at the internal cafeteria.

Personally, and in my circle of friends, we've gone from preferring eating out to preferring eating cooked meals that are either bought at the cafeteria or brought from home.

Maybe it's our preference for cooked food, which after a few years of eating out, will always be healthier if you get if from home. And because many of us have the "luxury" of being able to hire cooks who come in the mornings/evenings.

There are of course many Indians who prefer eating out, but as they get older (read: 4-5 years of working), they start realizing that home-cooked food is a better proposition. Which is why you'll often find a broad cross-section of employees - from an entry level person to CXOs, bringing cooked food in insulated containers as lunch.

Re: Never Going Back - A Week of Not Eating Lunch at My Desk

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Sometimes I like to eat lunch at my desk, other times I eat in the dining area with co-workers, and other times I eat out. Why does it need to be an all or nothing proposition? There are days when I'm very busy on a problem and I don't want the distraction of taking lunch so I'll either eat it at my desk or eat something low impact like a protein bar/shake. Alternatively when I get stuck on a problem I'll take a long…

I think the all-or-nothing attitude is an attempt by many people to play against their own psychology. For many people, "I'll just do whatever I feel like each day" is problematic, because the moment right before lunch isn't their brain's best time to make that decision. In that moment, the task at hand looms large in their attention, so they are disproportionately tempted to submit to it and keep working. The benefi…

^ This. Exactly!

Thanks for articulating the thought process I'm having almost every day right before lunch time.

Re: Never Going Back - A Week of Not Eating Lunch at My Desk

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I never eat lunch at my desk because I think it's inconsiderate to my coworkers. They should not have to smell or see what I am eating, let alone hear me crunch into chips or an apple.

I find this quite ridiculous, people are not these fragile creatures that can't see, hear or smell anything other than the usual office sights, sounds and aromas. I think you're over thinking this. Unless you're eating weird stuff like boiled lungfish or whatever then I suspect nobody is paying the slightest attention to you eating chips or an apple.

I was trying to find a nice way to say this; people seem to not focus very much if you notice things like that. I have had Indian/Vietnamees people eat stuff next to me (which is very high in aroma) and in the Netherlands there is quite a bit of fish eating; I have never noticed anything as i'm , you know, focusing on what i'm doing? Hell, I often work next to a TV or console gaming and that really doesn't do anything. Never had colleagues bothered by this either.

I notice that people who complain about sounds and odours are often people who don't have very much to do, at least not with a looming deadline. It's like when you live in a neighbourhood with attached housing; there are always a few who complain about everything they hear and see and they actually do listen to people flushing toilets and accidentally dropping chairs.

Re: Never Going Back - A Week of Not Eating Lunch at My Desk

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Lunch and dinner breaks are my most treasured time periods on many days. Whenever I remember the good old times at university, I think of my walks outside the library - and along the seashore - while taking a rest from studying to eat dinner.

I should add that browsing Wikipedia while eating lunch has made me a nutrition expert, to the surprise of many people. Eating lunch at the desk can also have its advantages.

Re: Never Going Back - A Week of Not Eating Lunch at My Desk

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The word never is seldom (but not quite 'never') advised, and shines brightly as a warning sign. It appears far too often among these shallow lifehack type articles.

In this case someone realized that that they have options about where to eat. While this may seem a tad cynical, in a week they will be back at their desk.

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