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4K is for programmers

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Re: 4K is for programmers

#111
It is definitely a productivity booster for devs. However if your software audience includes low res users (enterprises, accessibility etc.) ensure that design/layout testing for low res usability does not become an afterthought. We have had this oversight in our team a few times.

Re: 4K is for programmers

#112
post #82

The article lists the "ideal size" for monitors at 50 inches, and the one for TVs at 100+ inches! While I'm sure it's great to have such massive screen real estate (I wanna get a 4K in 2014 too), I can't but help think this is the programmer equivalent of consumers buying needlessly large TVs. I work on a 24" desktop monitor and a 14" laptop one. How is 50" the "ideal size"? Even 39"? At what point does the law of di…

indeed it is subjective. it varies between persons, and for the same person it varies between tasks.

i use 4x2 24" in the office. some days it feels like i could use more screen space. but it has also reached a point i need to roll back and forth on my desk to read all ends. coding work is concentrated in 3.5 screens. spreadsheets, browsers, email, front ends, other software occupy the rest. and yet it still hasn't released me from alt-tab hell. there will always be that bunch of information that you must have in front of you no matter the cost, and the cost is that you still have to alt tab the less important windows -email, excel, hacker news.

Re: 4K is for programmers

#113

> Today, you can still buy a 30-inch 2560x1600 display for over $1,000. Or you can get a 39-inch 3840x2160 display for $500. This choice is not even fair. Yes, you can buy a wonderful, physically adjustable, mountable, color calibrated, blissful contrast, delightful brightness control monitor with a great matte finish like the Dell 3014... or you can buy an absolutely awful 30hz, locked in place, blue tinted, horribl…

>to stare at vim on

Well, there's your problem right there...

Re: 4K is for programmers

#114

> Today, you can still buy a 30-inch 2560x1600 display for over $1,000. Or you can get a 39-inch 3840x2160 display for $500. This choice is not even fair. Yes, you can buy a wonderful, physically adjustable, mountable, color calibrated, blissful contrast, delightful brightness control monitor with a great matte finish like the Dell 3014... or you can buy an absolutely awful 30hz, locked in place, blue tinted, horribl…

I agree the colors are a mess..... until you spend an hour or so calibrating. I did over the last two days since I bought one, and it has the same look, color wise, as my rMBP now

(I own the 39" Seiki)

Re: 4K is for programmers

#115

> Today, you can still buy a 30-inch 2560x1600 display for over $1,000. Or you can get a 39-inch 3840x2160 display for $500. This choice is not even fair. Yes, you can buy a wonderful, physically adjustable, mountable, color calibrated, blissful contrast, delightful brightness control monitor with a great matte finish like the Dell 3014... or you can buy an absolutely awful 30hz, locked in place, blue tinted, horribl…

> to stare at vim on Well, there's your problem right there...

>>>/g/

Re: 4K is for programmers

#116

> Today, you can still buy a 30-inch 2560x1600 display for over $1,000. Or you can get a 39-inch 3840x2160 display for $500. This choice is not even fair. Yes, you can buy a wonderful, physically adjustable, mountable, color calibrated, blissful contrast, delightful brightness control monitor with a great matte finish like the Dell 3014... or you can buy an absolutely awful 30hz, locked in place, blue tinted, horribl…

I agree the colors are a mess..... until you spend an hour or so calibrating. I did over the last two days since I bought one, and it has the same look, color wise, as my rMBP now (I own the 39" Seiki)

I tried calibrated it with both X-Rite and Spyder (both physical calibration devices) -- neither could get it anywhere near "average". It just swings all over the place. Also, calibration can't fix horrible blacks, uneven brightness and the finish.

What equipment did you use? Can you post your pre/post scores? I have NEVER met anyone who has been able to actually calibrate it into even "average" ranges. I realize that X-Rite and Spyder are "consumer grade" calibration devices, but they are all I have access to.

Re: 4K is for programmers

#117
post #92
post #82

The article lists the "ideal size" for monitors at 50 inches, and the one for TVs at 100+ inches! While I'm sure it's great to have such massive screen real estate (I wanna get a 4K in 2014 too), I can't but help think this is the programmer equivalent of consumers buying needlessly large TVs. I work on a 24" desktop monitor and a 14" laptop one. How is 50" the "ideal size"? Even 39"? At what point does the law of di…

Id say in terms of productivity it adds almost nothing because the biggest things holding a programmers productivity back have nothing todo with display size. Better get rid of interruptions, procrastination, bad tools etc. That being said programmer happiness is elemental and a 42inch 4K screen would add to that for me :)

A 39" monitor on your desk can block a lot distractions... from behind the monitor.

Re: 4K is for programmers

#118
alt+tabbing? wut?

Synergy + 17" Laptop as server + Desktop with 2x 24" screens on desk arms...

Some one explain why a single large screen is better for a programmer, when synergy is dead easy to setup.

Re: 4K is for programmers

#119
post #100

They say that having a 120hz monitor greatly improves the desktop experience (it's not just for games) so wouldn't 30hz be a real downgrade if you're used to 60hz?

Honestly, it depends on the person.

At work I have an old 75Hz 1024 x 1280 panel (portrait) beside a newer 60Hz 1200p panel. If you look closely, you can tell the old panel is smoother. But its just that.. you have to look closely. It definitely isn't a jarring difference. IMO I wouldn't get much more out of a 120Hz panel just for programming and daily use.

As for gaming, wI know the extra framerate definitely smooths out the experience in FPS games. I'd take a 1440p IPS panel over a 1080p TN (120hz) any day, but I know others who say the exact opposite. Its totally subjective.

Re: 4K is for programmers

#120
I don't think I'd want to work somewhere where it appears to be compulsory to use a ridiculously cheap $500 39 inch UHD display. How ridiculous! 28-30 inch is plenty big enough for a desktop computer.

The intentions are good. But seriously, why not just wait a few weeks for the Dell 4K monitor that's price well under $1000.

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