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Ask HN: What's the best way to get 5% on a million dollars?

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Re: Ask HN: What's the best way to get 5% on a million dollars?

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The best and only way is to educate yourself, so that you won't be at the mercy of financial advisors (who are just salesmen) or flawed financial products.

Yes. Increase your financial IQ, as it were. My wife and I run a service business to keep bread (organic) on the table, hired our first coach, researched, and are now purchasing investment properties that realize >= 9% on investment, and since they cash flow, continue providing returns. In addition to all of the tax advantages (we live in the US, so US tax law, but similar elsewhere). Now we just hired our second coa…

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Re: Ask HN: What's the best way to get 5% on a million dollars?

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I would buy property in Marin County if I had a million dollars. One house. A neighbor moved next to me. I scared him away--I think? (another story). He was in his house for 5 months and made 90 grand on on a $650,000 investment. It's a weird market here.

I'm thoroughly convinced 90% of stock gains are made through inside information. I thought the Internet would level out the playing field, but it seems like the wealthy "connected" types are always in a bull market? (This year was an exception--everyone seemed to make money if they bought stocks?)

As to leveling out the winners in the stock market; I hope some young dude makes an app--a app that would help investors who don't have wealthy friends. And Stocktwits in not that app.

(I see a lot of posters advising on making money off renters. Personally, I couldn't live with myself making a huge profit on Renters. A nice family moves in and can just afford the rent, and the Landlord continually raises the rent. It's not moral. Sorry, but a place to stay, especially if the family has kids, is more than just a Revenue Stream. )

Re: Ask HN: What's the best way to get 5% on a million dollars?

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I'd buy a small newer (post 1979 construction so no rent control) rental property in San Francisco. With that much down you should be able to get it cash flow positive plus increase your equity at the same time if you needed to liquidate.

I realize this is San Francisco we are talking about but the idea that $1,000,000 is merely a down payment for a small living space is mind boggling to me (yes, I live somewhere much less desirable and much cheaper).

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Re: Ask HN: What's the best way to get 5% on a million dollars?

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Use it all to buy shares of DNP. At today's closing price of 9.34, the monthly dividend of 6.5cents will net you 8.35% per year (not counting compounding, higher if you have a divident reinvestment plan). After taxes you should still be above 5%.

Please be careful and understand what type of fund this is before choosing this investment.

Re: Ask HN: What's the best way to get 5% on a million dollars?

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> What do you think is the best way to get the lowest risk, 5% annual return on a million dollars?

You won't find a zero-risk 5% return; those don't exist. Bank accounts pay approximately zero interest these days.

The lowest-risk return would be to buy an index fund based on the entire stock market, balanced with a fund that buys low-risk bonds; choose a stock-to-bond ratio based on your desired level of risk.

Vanguard has the best index funds in the industry, due to their minimal administrative overhead (0.05% to 0.1% of return). VBIAX is a nice balanced fund that's 60:40 stocks:bonds, which is quite risk-averse. If you want to choose a different ratio, go with a balance of VTSAX for stocks and VBILX or similar for bonds. You could choose anything from 100% stocks (if you don't mind riding out market crashes like 2008's) to 100% bonds (if you're extremely risk-averse and don't mind low returns).

If you're trying to use this as an income, Vanguard has the option to automatically send returns to a bank account rather than reinvesting them.

If you're talking about investing a million dollars all at once, you probably don't need to worry about dollar-cost averaging; if you're saving up a million over time, you should invest a fixed amount every paycheck no matter what the price is. No matter what, don't try to beat the market; you will lose.

> I'm also interested in how you could get 8% or 10%, though I know that would likely include more risk.

Same way, just change the ratio. If you have a high tolerance for risk, such as if you're a long way from retirement or you're otherwise flexible in how much return you get each year, buy 100% stocks (VTSAX); the return was 33% this year, 18% average over the last 5, and 8% average over the last 10 (which includes the 2008 crash).

Re: Ask HN: What's the best way to get 5% on a million dollars?

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I think you're looking at this the wrong way. Decide the level of risk first. That dictates your stock/bond mix. After that, you get whatever the market gives you. If you're looking for a guaranteed 5%, it doesn't exist right now, and it won't be back unless inflation spikes close to 5%.

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