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Ask HN: What's the best way to get 5% on a million dollars?

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Re: Ask HN: What's the best way to get 5% on a million dollars?

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http://www.dogsoftheseason.com/ Is this true? If not, please explain why not?

He doesn't say how to choose the right stocks. And I assume he's choosing them after the fact for his graph. I'd be curious to see a random sampling of S&P 500 in autumn vs. spring. That would give a better idea of if it works.

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Re: Ask HN: What's the best way to get 5% on a million dollars?

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I'd buy a small newer (post 1979 construction so no rent control) rental property in San Francisco. With that much down you should be able to get it cash flow positive plus increase your equity at the same time if you needed to liquidate.

I realize this is San Francisco we are talking about but the idea that $1,000,000 is merely a down payment for a small living space is mind boggling to me (yes, I live somewhere much less desirable and much cheaper).

Re: Ask HN: What's the best way to get 5% on a million dollars?

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Disclaimer: I'm not a financial advisor, I don't play one on TV, and I don't have a million dollars or equivalent. Take $10,000 (1%), and accept it as money worth spending. Network well, contact friends, family and ideally successful professionals and discover a financial advisor you can trust. Get empirical proof of this, as many may just be out to fleece clients - and worse, think they're actually doing a good job.…

While I agree with the general concept, investing 10k comes with a substantially different cost/risk/benefit profile to investing 1,000k. The 1% rule is a great general rule for a single investment, but to invest 99% of your porfolios gain on 1% risk seems like asking for 1995 google stock.

My personal investment in this profile is about 10k per position [equity] and up to 15k per position [option risk] - where a position is defined by the total risk as affected by the underlying stock - you still could end up with 100 positions with a 1mm portfolio, but usually by 20-30, you find ones that you understand well and have reason to believe are undervalued -- those are when you break the 1% rule, and you do it a couple of times. Some will become worth less than 1%, some more than 10%. Re-balance judiciously, hold if it produces income greater than its risk, and sell anything not nailed down when someone offers you a gold-laying goose for it -- you can always by short-term risk with options if you're that confident, and cash is infinantly more exchangeable to immediate needs than paper stocks held at the DTC are to your grocer.

Depending on your age, if you have little to no investment experience, i'd check out the professional lists at fool.com (rule your retirement, etc) - those are the profiles I put my family in. If you're bored and looking to day-trade, there are similar lists for options, but those are for play money or experienced readers, not retirement money.

Re: Ask HN: What's the best way to get 5% on a million dollars?

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Municipal bonds will yield 5-7%, very safe, all will be state tax free, some are also federal tax free.

LendingClub can yield 10%+. You have to be pretty engaged, since you'll need to loan a small amount to a lot of people. At $1M, probably $2,500 to each of 400 people so the risk of default (there will be defaults) is diversified. You'll have to actively re-invest the principle/interest. But it pays back monthly and is kind of like paying yourself a salary in some respects.

Re: Ask HN: What's the best way to get 5% on a million dollars?

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post #12

http://www.dogsoftheseason.com/ Is this true? If not, please explain why not?

He doesn't say how to choose the right stocks. And I assume he's choosing them after the fact for his graph. I'd be curious to see a random sampling of S&P 500 in autumn vs. spring. That would give a better idea of if it works.

> And I assume he's choosing them after the fact for his graph.

So it's possible to edit tweets or change their timestamps?

https://twitter.com/DogsOfTheSeason

Re: Ask HN: What's the best way to get 5% on a million dollars?

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The best and only way is to educate yourself, so that you won't be at the mercy of financial advisors (who are just salesmen) or flawed financial products.

Yes. Increase your financial IQ, as it were. My wife and I run a service business to keep bread (organic) on the table, hired our first coach, researched, and are now purchasing investment properties that realize >= 9% on investment, and since they cash flow, continue providing returns. In addition to all of the tax advantages (we live in the US, so US tax law, but similar elsewhere).

Now we just hired our second coach, and will be learning paper asset strategies for cash flow and for capital generation to continue purchasing real estate.

FWIW: I think that we are successful so far because we believe in ourselves and put in the hours and sweat.

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