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So someone "stole" your idea

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Re: So someone "stole" your idea

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How about this one: the CEO of the most popular desktop 3D printer company has been on our waiting list for the first cloud printing software for four months and they just released 3 products with that feature at CES

Stealth mode has its benefits...

Re: So someone "stole" your idea

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Or there are cases when ideas are actually stolen. :P My brother and I created a very popular website a couple of years ago called Oracle of Legends. It was a League of Legends fansite with a LOT of features that are now copied elsewhere. https://web.archive.org/web/20120509003942/http://www.oracle... Loking.net didn't have the skin viewer it now has. They saw our skin viewer (granted it wasn't "ours") and built one…

And there are cases where ideas just happen at the same time.

A few years ago, I wrote a puzzle game called Coco Loco. It was an angry birds style "throw the thing at the other thing and collect the things" but with actual puzzles and items you could deform the levels with to solve the puzzles more easily.

I had a free demo out of the first 10 levels, it got good feedback from testers, and I was ready to roll out a version with 50 levels.

Then, another angry birds style "throw the thing at the other thing and collect the things" but with actual puzzles and items you could deform the levels with, called Coco Loco (trademark), got released.

My initial reaction was that they'd taken my name, my level ideas, and put a larger team on it to get the game out.

Of course, they hadn't.

Turns out, we had both come up with very similar ideas, and the exact same name, at the same time.

These things happen. Thankfully, all the puzzle design work I did could be applied to my current project, Spheretic. (http://notnowlewis.com/spheretic/ if anyone's interested!)

Re: So someone "stole" your idea

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Is there a difference between having your idea stolen and being to far ahead of your time? It would seem OP inferred that was part of the problem: "In 2009, Charoo and I built Viewpointr. It was ahead of its time and today, Biz Stone and co, launched Jelly.co. They seem to have got it right… time will tell." Sometimes I guess you just have to wait until the market is ready for your product? As opposed to arguing some…

Timing is very very very (I could keep going) hard. Mostly it is luck, a few very perceptive people can see all the network flows that need to come into place for an idea to take hold in the collective consciousness.

If we operated on a different location in the economic parameter space we would solve a problem, and if it didn't fit into the current graph, we would shelve it only to reactivate it later when it could fit.

A dormant prototype can be a very powerful thing.

Re: So someone "stole" your idea

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I need a new side project. Can you give me 5 of your best ideas that you don't want to use? :-)

@ 1. Craigslist style email obfuscation as a service. problem: i have a marketplace type website where my users would like to be contacted but not have their emails be made public. how it works: i set a subdomain of my site, mail.mysite.com to an ip address you designate. on demand, i make an api call to your service (emailobfuscationasaservice.com) with { real_address:foo@bar.com, expiration_timestamp:2014-01-20T00:…

For 3 you can check out TripIt: you can just forward your bookings or notes to them, and they'll either parse it properly (if they recognise the provider/airline etc) or just file it for your review later. It's not exactly what you said, but close.

I'm pretty sure 1 exists as well, but I can't remember the name.

Re: So someone "stole" your idea

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Is there a difference between having your idea stolen and being to far ahead of your time? It would seem OP inferred that was part of the problem: "In 2009, Charoo and I built Viewpointr. It was ahead of its time and today, Biz Stone and co, launched Jelly.co. They seem to have got it right… time will tell." Sometimes I guess you just have to wait until the market is ready for your product? As opposed to arguing some…

Also when the idea already exists[1] can you really claim it as your idea?

[1] http://web.archive.org/web/20081219115548/http://vark.com/

Re: So someone "stole" your idea

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I need a new side project. Can you give me 5 of your best ideas that you don't want to use? :-)

@ 1. Craigslist style email obfuscation as a service. problem: i have a marketplace type website where my users would like to be contacted but not have their emails be made public. how it works: i set a subdomain of my site, mail.mysite.com to an ip address you designate. on demand, i make an api call to your service (emailobfuscationasaservice.com) with { real_address:foo@bar.com, expiration_timestamp:2014-01-20T00:…

Regarding 1., I actually had an idea for a complete communication suite (email, voice, texting) but anonimized.

The realization came when I was exchanging contact info with a stranger on CL who was selling an iPhone.Why was this person now privy to my G+ profile? my phone number? etc...

The service would create "channels", each with a temporary telephone number (that works with texting) and an email. You use these to communicate with the seller/buyer/whatever and when you're done you disable the channel.

To communicate you would download an app to your phone that allows you to view messages and reply, or even place calls.

Anyways I didn't build it because I wasn't passionate enough about the idea, and I figured it would mostly be used for nefarious purposes. Also, there are some legal implications if somebody becomes the victim of a crime while meeting someone using my anonimized communication service.

Implementation of this technical problem left as an exercise for the person who "steals" this idea.

Re: So someone "stole" your idea

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Or there are cases when ideas are actually stolen. :P My brother and I created a very popular website a couple of years ago called Oracle of Legends. It was a League of Legends fansite with a LOT of features that are now copied elsewhere. https://web.archive.org/web/20120509003942/http://www.oracle... Loking.net didn't have the skin viewer it now has. They saw our skin viewer (granted it wasn't "ours") and built one…

Can you claim a skin viewer for a specific game as your idea though? Skin viewers for various games have probably been around longer than I've been alive

Re: So someone "stole" your idea

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Worse, they imply that an idea is a tangible thing, owned by someone. Some type of property, that can be stolen and thus deprive you of something.

Well, they kinda are, otherwise what is intellectual property?

Intellectual property is permission to prevent other people from doing something.

In the case of trademarks, you are allowed to prevent people from using a particular name (in order to keep that name unique and meaningful).

In the case of patents, you are allowed to prevent people from "using your idea" (even if it's also their idea). Supposedly this encourages people to develop ideas to the point where they're actually useful (and patentable), but looking at history they don't actually help.

In the case of copyright, you are allowed to prevent people from duplicating or building on your ideas (but in theory not from doing the same thing independently). Similar to patents, this doesn't appear to provide the benefits it's meant to (but it isn't quite as clear).

In no case is an idea a piece of intellectual property. Instead, the property is the right to prevent certain actions. The two cases of (attempted) intellectual property theft that I've heard of are the lawsuits by SCO around the Unix copyrights, and some guy in Florida (I think) who sued the author of some open-source Java model railroad software (I think this had to do with patents rather than copyright).

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