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BMW shows off 'drifting' self-drive cars

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Re: BMW shows off 'drifting' self-drive cars

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Last time I checked this was Hacker News, not Reddit, and I am getting sick of articles like this making it to the front page (as I am aware other commenters have noted).

I didn't even need to click on the article (but did in a vain hope) to know that there was absolutely no information as to what they actually did from a technical perspective that deserves notice on HN. The most technological it gets is "Using 360-degree radar, ultrasonic sensors and cameras, the cars sense and adapt to their surroundings.", but then what does it do that is different from what the Google Car and other autonomous cars do? Is it any different from the Audi that drove itself up Pike's Peak as quickly as it could?

The rest is offtopic, but as a long time read-only user, I must come out of the woodwork and make my first comments (other than a few days ago) to be to beg of submitters and upvoters to please only submit/upvote stuff that is actually relevant to what should be the audience of Hacker News, not the general reddit population...

I got sick of reddit and 'general' news years ago and don't want to go back to it.

Re: BMW shows off 'drifting' self-drive cars

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Last time I checked this was Hacker News, not Reddit, and I am getting sick of articles like this making it to the front page (as I am aware other commenters have noted). I didn't even need to click on the article (but did in a vain hope) to know that there was absolutely no information as to what they actually did from a technical perspective that deserves notice on HN. The most technological it gets is "Using 360-d…

I agree this is a very superficial article, although it is somewhat relevant to folks interested in self-driving vehicles. Despite regular procrastination on Jalopnik, I hadn't previously heard about self-driving tech applied to anything in the motorsports arena.

Nevertheless you raise a good point re. the fluff content here and encroaching redditification. Lately a lot of "witty one-liners" have appeared up in the comment section, and downvote-enabled HN users should feel a duty to discourage them.

Re: BMW shows off 'drifting' self-drive cars

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If a car company has their own self-driving technology, will they ever pay Google for theirs?

Of course, why would they?

The interesting thing is the motivation. BMW want to make a better car, to sell more cars. Google want self-driving to free up driver's time to consume media, which will be covered in advertising - exactly the same as releasing Android to drive mobile Internet usage. But just as Google acquired Motorola, which automaker is in their sights? GM?

Re: BMW shows off 'drifting' self-drive cars

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Stanford have done some interesting work on this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzI54rm9m1Q

IIRC Stanford's motion planning relies on blending from a plan based on a physics model to a choice of learned operations programmed into the car by a stunt driver. Makes sense for demos, but I don't know how well it would work if surfaces or driving conditions were different from when the operation was taught.

Re: BMW shows off 'drifting' self-drive cars

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If a car company has their own self-driving technology, will they ever pay Google for theirs?

Of course, why would they? The interesting thing is the motivation. BMW want to make a better car, to sell more cars. Google want self-driving to free up driver's time to consume media, which will be covered in advertising - exactly the same as releasing Android to drive mobile Internet usage. But just as Google acquired Motorola, which automaker is in their sights? GM?

That's what I've been wondering. I know VW, Daimler AG, Toyota, Volvo, BMW, and others have making pretty good strides in self driving tech, but it seems most American car companies are pretty far behind already. I wonder if Google intends to license the tech out to the companies who can't or won't do it themselves, or if they decide to pull a Motorola and enter the manufacturing market at some point in the future.

Re: BMW shows off 'drifting' self-drive cars

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Last time I checked this was Hacker News, not Reddit, and I am getting sick of articles like this making it to the front page (as I am aware other commenters have noted). I didn't even need to click on the article (but did in a vain hope) to know that there was absolutely no information as to what they actually did from a technical perspective that deserves notice on HN. The most technological it gets is "Using 360-d…

I sympathize with your feeling but this is far from the worse I've seen on HN's frontpage lately. At least it's not about politics.

Re: BMW shows off 'drifting' self-drive cars

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post #4

Last time I checked this was Hacker News, not Reddit, and I am getting sick of articles like this making it to the front page (as I am aware other commenters have noted). I didn't even need to click on the article (but did in a vain hope) to know that there was absolutely no information as to what they actually did from a technical perspective that deserves notice on HN. The most technological it gets is "Using 360-d…

I agree this is a very superficial article, although it is somewhat relevant to folks interested in self-driving vehicles. Despite regular procrastination on Jalopnik, I hadn't previously heard about self-driving tech applied to anything in the motorsports arena. Nevertheless you raise a good point re. the fluff content here and encroaching redditification. Lately a lot of "witty one-liners" have appeared up in the c…

Audi has been doing autonomous sports cars for years. In 2010 they had a TTS climb Pikes Peak, albeit almost three times slower than the human-driven record for that course.
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