#000000 on all the text is quite aggressive isn't it?
The New York Times Redesign is Live
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#62Earlier quoted context omitted.
Page down is working for me...
True, I can still hit the space bar, but it does something different and broken. Try paging down on HN, and you'll see that the bottom 1-2 lines are preserved at the top of the screen, so you don't lose your place. Now try it on NYT: at least for me, there is absolutely no context preserved. That's better than the all-too-frequent case where a line is missed entirely, but it still makes reading harder. Plus, I'm so u…
The front page is working correctly for me in Firefox 26. When I hit page down or space the two lines that were at the very bottom of the screen move to just below the top bar.
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#6310 ghostery items and 23 Ads. Nice.
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#64If I may take a moment to whinge and whine a tad; Websites like this infuriate me because for all their "design", sites like Reddit and HN (which are basically just lists) are delivering news in a much more consumable fashion, better suited to the eating habits of the common or garden user. Who's to blame? The designers with their need to make their own mark? The suits with their demands that the business needs be me…
Are you honestly comparing reddit and hn to the New York Times? You can't just lump those sites in together as "news sites," they are completely different in content and purpose...
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#65Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's not "bosses v. designers", it's a newspaper failing to grasp that when you put a newspaper online it doesn't have the same visual constraints a printed newspaper have. Either that, or it's the newspaper totally getting that they do need to look like that to not confuse the heck out of the large constituency of readers that are slightly older and less tech-savvy than the Reddit crowd. But yeah, I'm with you, I'm…
I'm a fan of print newspaper layouts so the closer the digital product can be to that, the better. This layout (as opposed to a list format)makes browsing and discovering articles outside of my normal focus areas much easier as the headlines don't all blend together. I'm not sure what the best layout would be, but for a newspaper, the NYTimes current style is better than a Hackernews style list.
Try their today's paper view. Very effective.
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#66Not responsive.... why even bother redesigning today with a separate mobile subdomain?
Responsive is not always the proper solution.
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#67Earlier quoted context omitted.
they redirect to mobile.* though
So they still hold on to the old train of thought of desktop users and mobile users. Shame really.
Just because it's old doesn't mean it's no longer relevant. There are several instances where having two separate sites makes more sense.
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#68Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm a fan of print newspaper layouts so the closer the digital product can be to that, the better. This layout (as opposed to a list format)makes browsing and discovering articles outside of my normal focus areas much easier as the headlines don't all blend together. I'm not sure what the best layout would be, but for a newspaper, the NYTimes current style is better than a Hackernews style list.
Try their today's paper view. Very effective.
That's really nice and much more readable - thanks!
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#69How do you like the typography? I find e.g. the italic font for the headlines in the left column or the small all caps serif format of the bylines to be somewhat detrimental to readability.
I was just going to say the font sucks, there's a million free fonts on google fonts that look great... and they appear to have gone with times new roman for no particular reason.
They actually seem to be using Georgia for body, and the headlines are in the same setting of Cheltenham they use in the physical paper.
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#70If I may take a moment to whinge and whine a tad; Websites like this infuriate me because for all their "design", sites like Reddit and HN (which are basically just lists) are delivering news in a much more consumable fashion, better suited to the eating habits of the common or garden user. Who's to blame? The designers with their need to make their own mark? The suits with their demands that the business needs be me…
> the common or garden user
Reddit and HN traffic is not common. It's a small share of the general population, and further, probably overlaps little with the target NYT audience whom they want to upsell to a paid subscription. I read HN; my extended family has never heard of it.
This reminds me of people who are unaware of how small the combined market share is for rdio and spotify, or why networks don't abandon cable tv revenue for cord cutters, despite how seemingly convenient and inexpensive they are. Most people listen to the radio (in the car). Most people subscribe to cable.