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Dell Wasn't Joking About That 28-Inch Sub-$1000 4K Monitor; It's Only $699

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Re: Dell Wasn't Joking About That 28-Inch Sub-$1000 4K Monitor; It's Only $699

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They also finally cashed in the 'big side vs. small side' credit they've been holding onto since they first branded HD (720 and 1080 are the (exact) pixel-lengths of the small sides, while 4k is (less than) the length of the big side). Edit: Not only that, but they can (defendably) make the claim that 4k is "4 times the size of 1080p" while (deniably) knowing that some people will misinterpret.

Misinterpret how? By expecting that the sides will be four times larger? That exists, and it's called 8K. "Megapixels" already exists as an entrenched concept, and I don't think it's deceptive to call 4K 4x larger than 1080p or 8K 16x larger than 1080p.

720 = 720 vertical pixels

1080 = 1080 vertical pixels

4k = 4000 = 4000 vertical pixels? Nope.

Shit's confusing. 2k or 4x would be less confusing.

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I'd suggest to drop the traditional speakers altogether and start using headphones. The industry standard Sennheiser HD650 or Audio Technica M50 will bring more sound quality for the buck from any loudspeaker I can think of. Of course, this is just an uneducated suggestion. Maybe you love to share your music.

I have HD 485s, but even at the loosest setting I can't wear them for more than 30 minutes because of the way they feel on the tips of my ears.

Well, I don't want to sound condescending but the headphones I'm recommending are both priced well above HD485, apart from being highly appreciated (mostly) in the audiophile community. Also, HD650 is known to be very comfortable and having 15 headphones to compare, I can tell you that you can go for it without a second thought. It's a very nice investment for one's ears =)

Re: Dell Wasn't Joking About That 28-Inch Sub-$1000 4K Monitor; It's Only $699

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I have HD 485s, but even at the loosest setting I can't wear them for more than 30 minutes because of the way they feel on the tips of my ears.

I have tritton 720+ and they also hurt my ears after a while. It is because they put the sliding part to low, so it minimaly adjusts the width. (probably to maximise the ear/top of head proportion) Or I have sensitive parts near my ears?

Tritton 700 series are pretty decent for gaming. However, gaming headsets aren't designed for long term listening. Maybe you can consider getting something like Beyerdynamics DT990 Pros as an all-round headphone for daily use.

Re: Dell Wasn't Joking About That 28-Inch Sub-$1000 4K Monitor; It's Only $699

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That's not correct. The resolution you are referring to is the native running resolution of 4K projectors in cinemas established by DCI. If you were being legal about it, which your comment is a little bit, "actual" 4K is 4096x2560. A "proper" 4K film shown at DCI resolution is cropped by removing lines due to the combination of aspect ratio between film and projector. The trend in film photography, however, is towar…

"The last lens I shot on in news was $20,000 by itself, which is part of the reason the average photog will get really mad at you if you grab it, as people who don't want to be videotaped are wont to do." Grabbing the lens is effective at dissuasion? Good to know.

Just lick your thumb and put it right on the glass.

Re: Dell Wasn't Joking About That 28-Inch Sub-$1000 4K Monitor; It's Only $699

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Such high resolution displays may sound like overkill for many people, but improved resolution is a big deal to those who care about screen typography—specifically, in layman's terms, about how fonts look on screen. When displaying letters in small sizes, the pixel grid becomes increasingly coarse and the result often becomes ugly and less readable. To prevent this, "hinting" instructions need to be built into the fo…

I think everybody cares about high DPG typography, they just rarely have a choice in the matter. If you ask Joe bloggs on the street to choose the more readable text that they'd prefer between a display from 2001 and 2010 they'll choose the 2010 one every time. Nobody sells a cutting edge laptop with a lower screen resolution, so it's never a choice somebody has to make, so nobody really knows it's a thing, explicitl…

I'm only relying on memory, but I don't think screen resolutions on high-end personal computers improved significantly between 2001 and 2010, even as drastic improvements were seen in smaller devices such as phones. The reason is that large screens with higher resolutions mean even more pixels, and a higher likelihood that one of them will fail during the manufacturing process, resulting in significant numbers of faulty screens that have to be discarded. So it wasn't seen as economically viable to increase screen resolutions much beyond 150 ppi or so.

Re: Dell Wasn't Joking About That 28-Inch Sub-$1000 4K Monitor; It's Only $699

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Excellent. Again, a big thank you to Seiki for dropping a bomb on the display industry, whether or not Dell acknowledges it.

3840x2160 at 28 inches is quite fantastic. A step closer to 10,000+ horizontal pixels in a single ~50 inch display, which I consider an ideal for desktop computing.

The burning question for me right now is who will sell me a GPU with three DisplayPorts to drive three of these? The top-end nVidia cards provide only a single DisplayPort [1]. I don't particularly care about 3D performance at this resolution—at least not yet—I just want three 3840x2160 capable ports from a single PCI Express slot. Ideally with a GTX 650 style short-length form-factor [2]. Again, 3D is of secondary concern to me, and the GTX 650 can already power 1x 3840x2160 (via HDMI 1.4) and 2x 2560x1600 (via DVI) without breaking a sweat—some of my colleagues and I are doing that presently. A 3x DisplayPort card for predominantly 2D productivity work is not unreasonable.

[1] http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-780...

[2] http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-650...

Re: Dell Wasn't Joking About That 28-Inch Sub-$1000 4K Monitor; It's Only $699

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In Beijing, they scan bags right before you get out to meet your loved ones. They appear to select people at random, and from my observation you have 5%-10% chance of being selected. I'm not sure what they're looking for, though, as I've never seen them open a bag after it went through the scanner. I was quizzed about my road bike (which was obvious as it was packed separately) but after I explained it was old, and '…

They are scanning all bags in Beijing these days, at least when coming out of T2 customs. I'm more worried about transporting it as,baggage in the first place. I'm just not a good yellow cow.

Add oil!

You're right, though. Definitely not worth the risk to check it in.

Re: Dell Wasn't Joking About That 28-Inch Sub-$1000 4K Monitor; It's Only $699

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I was just about to purchase a Dell 27" monitor (1080p) as a second screen for my laptop. Glad I didn't as prices of UHD monitors seem to have become reasonable REALLY fast. I know nothing about displays. Can someone explain to me the difference between this monitor and (for example) the Sharp 4K display that is an option with the new Mac Pro and costs several thousand $? NB: I will be programming, working in Logic P…

Buying a 27" with 1080p resolution is a bad choice imo, my 7 year old Dell 24" has a higher resolution than that (1920x1200). For 27" you need to go for 2560x1440 resolution or you will just waste space. 4K is even better obviously :) In terms of differences to the Sharp Display i guess there arent many from a consumer point of view, but id wait for reviews and see if it has any weak points.

Your 7yo Dell is probably a different screen ratio, 16:10, than his which is probably 16:9. You probably have very similar DPIs, but your 1920x1200 monitor just has more vertical screen space.

Re: Dell Wasn't Joking About That 28-Inch Sub-$1000 4K Monitor; It's Only $699

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Excellent. Again, a big thank you to Seiki for dropping a bomb on the display industry, whether or not Dell acknowledges it. 3840x2160 at 28 inches is quite fantastic. A step closer to 10,000+ horizontal pixels in a single ~50 inch display, which I consider an ideal for desktop computing. The burning question for me right now is who will sell me a GPU with three DisplayPorts to drive three of these? The top-end nVidi…

> who will sell me a GPU with three DisplayPorts to drive three of these?

Visiontek makes a couple of eyefinity cards with 6 mini-dps. I didn't see the measurements but it doesn't look too long.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814129...

Re: Dell Wasn't Joking About That 28-Inch Sub-$1000 4K Monitor; It's Only $699

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post #126

Excellent. Again, a big thank you to Seiki for dropping a bomb on the display industry, whether or not Dell acknowledges it. 3840x2160 at 28 inches is quite fantastic. A step closer to 10,000+ horizontal pixels in a single ~50 inch display, which I consider an ideal for desktop computing. The burning question for me right now is who will sell me a GPU with three DisplayPorts to drive three of these? The top-end nVidi…

Whatever Apple is putting in the Mac Pro I think will do it.
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