Digital Ocean said it would shut down my blog if I didn’t edit a blog post.
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Digital Ocean said it would shut down my blog if I didn’t edit a blog post.
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Re: Digital Ocean said it would shut down my blog if I didn’t edit a blog post.
#2So Digital Ocean could freely decide if a content is harassing without any legal court order or something?
So if I decide to use their service(which I was considering btw) should I worry about wether or not they will deem my content inappropriate?
So if I want to have a site where I would have users who can say/post whatever they want(freedom of speech and all that human right stuff) I can't host it on DO, because somebody might just send a bogus email to them and they would act on it?
Re: Digital Ocean said it would shut down my blog if I didn’t edit a blog post.
#3Digital Ocean are going through all the kinds of problems that newbies to the ISP business go through in their early days, but DO are having to do it after having already got enormously popular. Not a lot of fun for them I'm sure.
Re: Digital Ocean said it would shut down my blog if I didn’t edit a blog post.
#4So Digital Ocean could freely decide if a content is harassing without any legal court order or something? So if I decide to use their service(which I was considering btw) should I worry about wether or not they will deem my content inappropriate? So if I want to have a site where I would have users who can say/post whatever they want(freedom of speech and all that human right stuff) I can't host it on DO, because so…
> So Digital Ocean could freely decide if a content is harassing without any legal court order or something?
Their TOS presumably allow this, as do the TOSes of most hosts, but this seems like a pretty bizarre use of discretionary terms, and would definitely put a lot of people off using it for anything much.
Re: Digital Ocean said it would shut down my blog if I didn’t edit a blog post.
#5Enjoy the cloud. Nothing more to be said. With the current "Waiver all rights in the TOS and no legal protections for the customers" it is only going to get worse.
I think that cloud services and telecoms and ISPs should be designated as common carrier with the protections and obligations that come from that.
Re: Digital Ocean said it would shut down my blog if I didn’t edit a blog post.
#6The real issue here is whether Digital Ocean should be enforcing a term in their ToS to prevent users from using their network in various socially negative ways. As a liberal-ish European, I think they should, but I appreciate this stance doesn't necessarily play well in the US.
Nonetheless, taking quotes from an informal chat room and turning them into a biased, borderline libelous blog post isn't cool. It's immaterial whether Collins told the author they didn't care about the post or not. If Collins made an official complaint as per the ToS, the post in question - http://vpsexperience.wordpress.com/2014/01/05/googler-speaks... - strikes me as defamatory and embarrassing enough to legitimately fall under term 2.8.. so the real question has nothing to do with the complaint but more is term 2.8 a good idea or not?
Re: Digital Ocean said it would shut down my blog if I didn’t edit a blog post.
#7This is a spoof right?
"One member of the community half-seriously (I assumed) threatened to harm me, proposing to “Godwins law this fucker.""
"Another member of the community [...] had taken note of my browser “fingerprint” and was now offering to share it with everyone."
So they were going to compare him to Hitler as punishment, and share with the community information used mainly for ad targeting?
Re: Digital Ocean said it would shut down my blog if I didn’t edit a blog post.
#8The real issue here is whether Digital Ocean should be enforcing a term in their ToS to prevent users from using their network in various socially negative ways. As a liberal-ish European, I think they should, but I appreciate this stance doesn't necessarily play well in the US. Nonetheless, taking quotes from an informal chat room and turning them into a biased, borderline libelous blog post isn't cool. It's immater…
Thats interesting. As a liberalish European, I think DigitalOcean shouldn't be allowed to police their content, just as ISPs shouldn't be allowed to block websites at their whim. Thats clearly in the realm of courts and lawyers. DigitalOcean can cancel the contract once others found the blog post to be defamatory.
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#9The real issue here is whether Digital Ocean should be enforcing a term in their ToS to prevent users from using their network in various socially negative ways. As a liberal-ish European, I think they should, but I appreciate this stance doesn't necessarily play well in the US. Nonetheless, taking quotes from an informal chat room and turning them into a biased, borderline libelous blog post isn't cool. It's immater…
Due to few (any?) countries truly considering ISPs as common carriers most ISPs have to be the police at some stage. So it's a matter of how they handle it. It doesn't sound like DO have handled this well.
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#10The real issue here is whether Digital Ocean should be enforcing a term in their ToS to prevent users from using their network in various socially negative ways. As a liberal-ish European, I think they should, but I appreciate this stance doesn't necessarily play well in the US. Nonetheless, taking quotes from an informal chat room and turning them into a biased, borderline libelous blog post isn't cool. It's immater…
Thats interesting. As a liberalish European, I think DigitalOcean shouldn't be allowed to police their content, just as ISPs shouldn't be allowed to block websites at their whim. Thats clearly in the realm of courts and lawyers. DigitalOcean can cancel the contract once others found the blog post to be defamatory.
Perhaps the two of you are only disagreeing on what "liberal" means; it tends to mean something quite different in Europe than in the US :)