Secondly, no electronic music producer argues against having to pay licensing fees to copyright holders, on fair use or on any other grounds. Since they are copyright holders themselves, it wouldn't make any sense. Remixes are considered legitimate collaborations, and many producers are motivated by the desire to showcase forgotten or obscure works by people who didn't the attention (and money) they deserved for whatever reason.
How Daft Punk Created One of Their Most Famous Samples
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#82Earlier quoted context omitted.
Agreed, so the sample is taken/used to create something new. I'm not saying that sampling is not creative, and I've done it myself on plenty of tracks. But a sample only becomes creative after it is taken. You can't 'create' a sample because it is just a snippet of audio. As the article says, it's about "building songs from samples". I'm not being pedantic by the way.. I just see the person who 'created' the sample a…
I just see the person who 'created' the sample as the original recording artist. This is a perpetual debate =D. Although I'm not sure its black or white. A good artist can use a "sample" in the same way a panatone color is used by a pointillist painter. At that stage, its all about the spectrum of color, the contrast, and the entire effevt of many points of color...not just the quality of the sampled pigments in any…
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#83Earlier quoted context omitted.
the final product of the sample taken produced a newly created track. at least for sake of brevity, created seems acceptable in this context. it also probably is a good way of conceptualizing the legal issues involved (©) when an artist manipulates a sample enough to create a new derivative work so distinct that it ought be deemed a separate entity from the original. These legal limits are still being tested but afte…
Agreed, so the sample is taken/used to create something new. I'm not saying that sampling is not creative, and I've done it myself on plenty of tracks. But a sample only becomes creative after it is taken. You can't 'create' a sample because it is just a snippet of audio. As the article says, it's about "building songs from samples". I'm not being pedantic by the way.. I just see the person who 'created' the sample a…
so i think everyone is correct in this argument; they are using samples to create samples.
Re: How Daft Punk Created One of Their Most Famous Samples
#84" More Spell On You " was actually produced by Daniel Vangarde (a.k.a Thomas Bangalter's father). It might be the reason why Daft Punk were able to avoid legal complications.
Do you actually need any kind of licensing or permission to sample 10 seconds of a song? Especially when the end result sounds nothing like the original
Re: How Daft Punk Created One of Their Most Famous Samples
#85" More Spell On You " was actually produced by Daniel Vangarde (a.k.a Thomas Bangalter's father). It might be the reason why Daft Punk were able to avoid legal complications.
There are a few other tracks off Discovery that are like that.
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#86Nitpicking, but that comment in the closing paragraph is jarring: "Anyone can put a urinal on the wall and call it art". It's clearly a reference to Marcel Duchamp's Fountain - a key work in the argument of what is and isn't art. However, that urinal, and its reproductions, were pointedly never mounted on a wall, but flat on a pedestal where it couldn't be used. It's like the author had heard the phrase but didn't kn…
You understood the reference, and so did everyone else, so does it really matter if he says "on the wall" instead of "on a pedestal"? Also, you have misquoted (?) the article. When quoted like that, it sounds like the author is criticizing Daft Punk, when in fact the author is addressing potential detractors.
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#87Re: How Daft Punk Created One of Their Most Famous Samples
#88I'm pretty amazed by how accepted sampling is. You can cherry pick examples of uses and alterations of original works that are made...better, or at least distinct or unrecognizable. But that's rarely the case. What you usually get are unholy abominations: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcMfl3UGhOY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwIGZLjugKA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oROoI-bYgGQ ...I guess it's partly ignorance on…
Even though Kanye West gets a lot of flak for his behavior, I think that most of the sampling that he's done (especially on his first 3 albums) has been amazing. Like taking a 2 second sound clip from Steely Dan's Kid Charlemagne and somehow transforming it into the main beat for his song in Champion: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XaDeC2LEdA#t=68
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#89Re: How Daft Punk Created One of Their Most Famous Samples
#90The way he talks is really great and you learn a lot from his tutorials.
But he gives bad advice regarding the warping of samples. After Ableton 7.0 was released the warping system changed from move the time into the sample to move the sample into the time. He's trying to use Ableton 8.0's warping mechanism the same way it worked in 7.0. Granted the end result is the same, however, Ableton 9.0 defaults to the newer warping system. It is unfair to give this advice to the viewer.