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Re: Show HN: Use any text as a domain name

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As a tangent, I read this earlier today and then got annoyed at not having a quick URL shortener on hand (I got spoiled at my last job, where I could use internal shortcuts for complex URLs like create new Google Doc / link to specific doc, etc).

So, decided to write my first Chrome extension, modelled loosely on your domain name hashing, and here it is: https://github.com/jennielees/jump

It's entirely a personal itch-scratcher, but thank you for the inspiration!

Re: Show HN: Use any text as a domain name

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post #136

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So in your opinion is a domain squatter worse, the same, or better than a real estate investor? That is someone who identifies something that has value that might be able to be sold at a higher value at a later date and buys it for less than they intend to sell at that later date?

IMO domain squatters are worse (and definitely more annoying). While real estate investing still seems like a parasitic activity and I'd be happy for it to disappear, at least when it comes to houses, a buyer usually doesn't care about a particular building - one can equally well live in a house next door, or next street. Whereas domains are almost never interchangable; if someone squats on my-company-name.com (and s…

With respect to real estate investors provide liquidity as there is not always an end user who is willing to buy at the time you want to sell.

As far as "squatting on my company name" the majority of the vitriol on HN regarding domain names is not directed at "squatting on my company name" (to which there are clearly defined rules and procedures for recovering a domain (UDRP)) but just at the general idea of someone getting a domain and holding it to sell at a later date.

As far as "to either buy from them or change the company/product name" we are talking the year 2014 here. If you are starting a new company you should be taking into account whether the domain name you want is available. People don't, I know this for multiple reasons. One is that I get assignments to buy domains for startups that have already branded (which they shouldn't have done) and then come and say "I need this domain what can you do for me?" (in so many words).

Now if you are an established company and all the sudden woke up in 2014 and want your domain well then I guess that's to bad. Even back 10 years ago big corporations had this problem because the people they hired didn't know enough to lock up their domains. Either because they were inept or because they didn't feel it was important to have (so what can you say about that?)

Re: Show HN: Use any text as a domain name

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post #114

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Until we can figure out something that doesn't suck, yes. Look, I'm sympathetic with a huge chunk of the world's population having to deal with a (potentially) unfamiliar character set, but what can you do about it? There has to be some standard that everyone can agree to which doesn't compromise the integrity of the net.

> I'm sympathetic with a huge chunk of the world's population having to deal with a (potentially) unfamiliar character set, but what can you do about it? Well, seeing as that "huge chunk" is a large majority, then the solution isn't "learn english because I'm used to typing URLs _this_ way." I understand that English is the current lingua franca, but it's aggressive to expect everyone to deal with it just to use the…

Who says you have to learn English?

Re: Show HN: Use any text as a domain name

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post #46

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>The is a horrendously horrible idea, for the same reason why unicode domain names are a bad idea. So, you suggest that non english speakers should just "learn it" to use DNS?

Until we can figure out something that doesn't suck, yes. Look, I'm sympathetic with a huge chunk of the world's population having to deal with a (potentially) unfamiliar character set, but what can you do about it? There has to be some standard that everyone can agree to which doesn't compromise the integrity of the net.

Punycode.

Re: Show HN: Use any text as a domain name

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post #53

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"and the primary source of frustration is that they are mostly taken by various squatters and other scums of the Internet" "Scums of the Internet"? Oh please. Where are you getting this all from exactly? You've just decided that since you weren't able to buy a domain [1] that you wanted at a price that you could afford to pay that all domains "are mostly taken by various squatters and other scum of the Internet". I m…

I get it, you work for a registrar, so you are naturally defensive (which I understand). But like individuals who buy empty lots from the Forest Service to resell at a premium, can't you understand why this seems like an inefficient market outcome? Sure, it may be desirable/profitable, but not ideal? Squatting may be a result of our domain registration system, but is it really desirable? to me it seems like a negativ…

I get it, you work for a registrar

Or AFLAC.

Re: Show HN: Use any text as a domain name

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Squatters are scum. They add nothing of value and make a resource artificially scarce for their own profit. If domain names had no value and people could just buy another one, then squatters wouldn't be making money in the first place.

I agree with you. However making a resource artificially scarce to push the price up is what humans do. From where I am sitting I can see multiple items where this happens gold, diamonds (wife's ring), water (in a glass) electricity (well, a turned in light), several things with brand names on them (the copyrighted logo seems to keep that price up by ensuring that only one supplier exists, keeping supply low). I'd be…

Sort of but it's not exactly the same thing. Physical items generally take effort to build or to extract, and they generally pay for the land or materials or whatever. Copyright is meant to artificially inflate the value, for the benefit of the author who wrote it.

If there is a case of someone just inflating the price and adding literally no value at all then I would say that is just as bad.

Re: Show HN: Use any text as a domain name

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post #95

This is quite an interesting experiment, and a step in the good direction, which should and must lead us to the complete removal of domain names. Why are domain names bad? That should be obvious. The main symptom of domain names' inherent brokenness is that the law must patch it so that an unknown squatter cannot kidnap some domain, e.g. register "france.com" and ransom it to the people who are most qualified to clai…

"And dynamic content you tell? Which dynamic content? Does one really care about changes in wiki pages?"

I care about new versions of wiki pages. If you write a page about good French restaurants in Beijing, I would read it. If I want to go back to the same page (= same hash) later, I will get the same page.

However, if there is an updated page, how will I know for sure? In the absence of domain names, a search engine might return some newer pages, but how can it rank them if there are multiple ones with the same title (and claiming the same hash as their predecessor)?

Maybe your server can return something in the HTTP header (like the hash of _your_ updated page)?

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