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Why would the tech field be better off with more women?
There isn't a fixed amount of tech work to be done. Adding more capable people (of any gender or background) increases the size of the pie.
No one will be happy until we have full blown socialism where everyone is assigned a career at birth that maintains a neat ratio for every industry by race/sex.
This is so stupid on so many levels, its actually a work of genius. Im impressed.
Why does no one care how many men are in hairdressing, finger nail painting, child care, teaching and so on?
Because those are low paid, low-status jobs? Or to flip the question, if they were highly paid, what would stop men from taking them?
When Nixon went to China people said it took Nixon to go to China, implying only someone obviously anti-communist could go there without being labeled a communist. Likewise, no man could say " Women in 21st century American cities are the privileged of the privileged ," as the woman who wrote that article wrote, without being lambasted. I don't know if I would say it so strongly, but the once-standard view that men s…
Do men dominate homelessness, or do old women and single mothers with children? I'd be interested in any links you have. also: >Women are successful in the West In what way? >more of them get college degrees, Oh, that actually is pretty good. >they live longer, Didn't they always? That's just biology, isn't it? >no law forces them to register for the military (in the U.S. at least), That's not a success of women, tha…
I remember previously stumbling upon http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201213/cmhansrd/c... - while I don't know to what extent the situation is similar in the US and haven't cross-checked the statistics, the data the speaker quotes seems to suggest that there is a significant disparity even if you control for that. (The relevant figures are all on the first two pages or so; beyond that, there isn't much to see apart from polemical banter)
Aaaaaaaaand... GONE![1]. Took about, hmm, 37mins. Perhaps HN's and/or tech community isn't the open-minded, diversity-welcoming group we all think we are... 1. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7006583
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1. Men run everything. 2. Men often don't think of women as human. 3. Women are under attack by men. I don't think these points are controversial. 1. Women are 50% of the workforce, but 4.5% of fortune 1000 CEO positions. 2. Women didn't get the right to vote in America until 50 years after black people, who were officially only partially human. 3. Is a characterization.
1. Men run everything. Gross generalization. Clearly not true. 2. Men often don't think of women as human. Another gross generalization, and your support for this is that a long time ago women couldn't vote, therefore often men don't think of women as human? By that twisted logic the statement Germany wants to invade France would still be true. 3. Women are under attack by men. Laughably histrionic. Is that like the…
Not a gross generalization, just a generalization. How many women have you had as a boss?
>2. Men often don't think of women as human.
Note the word "often" which means that this is not a generalization, but an uncontroversial observation.
>your support for this is that a long time ago women couldn't vote, therefore often men don't think of women as human?
No, that's just a reminder that this was the mainstream point of view probably within the lifetime of a women you know. I'm not going to make an argument that men often don't think of women as human like themselves. I would if I were asserting this to a Martian, but not anyone who has lived in any modern society.
>Laughably histrionic. Is that like the war on Christmas?
Are you telling me that I think that women are constantly under attack by men because my uterus has become unmoored?
The goal of women oriented initiatives isn't to tell women they aren't as capable. The author may be perfectly capable and she may be treated on her merit alone, but in aggregate women are not treated like that. From http://www.oecd.org/inclusive-growth/Closing%20the%20Gender%... "They reveal considerable gender differences among the self-employed, particularly those who are also employers. Figure 22.1 shows that acr…
http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2013/05/the-bigg...
Aaaaaaaaand... GONE![1]. Took about, hmm, 37mins. Perhaps HN's and/or tech community isn't the open-minded, diversity-welcoming group we all think we are... 1. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7006583
I hate how in every social justice discussion, there's always people who rant about this and think it's some patriarchal conspiracy.
Perhaps the social justice warriors aren't the technologically literate, competent group they all think they are?
Sorry for the blatantly provocative statements, but this is a tired trope here by now.
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>1. I can just as easily claim that most of those companies are owned by old people. Yes, you can. I would argue that being older means that you have had the time to accumulate skills, experience, and connections. What does being a man give you? Upper body strength? >2. Same reasoning as above. I missed that reasoning. Most companies are owned by old people (something that I'm not even sure is true), therefore there'…
The point I was trying to make is that in the times many of those companies were created, sexism WAS a legitimate issue, which means that most of these companies are run by men. Nowadays, it is not nearly as big an issue as it is made out to be, but that does not magically infuse the old companies with 50% women. This is why using this statistic is inherently flawed, as the companies were simply created in a differen…
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Here's some official government sources to go along with this discussion. Women earn the majority of bachelors, masters and doctorates: http://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=72 Women live longer than men: http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr61/nvsr61_06.pdf More women in the workforce have degrees than men: http://www.census.gov/newsroom/releases/archives/education/c... And some non government research papers…
>Women earn the majority of bachelors, masters and doctorates Wonderful. Its good that the efforts that were made to help women in education have borne so much fruit that we're starting (or were starting in the 90s) to worry about boys falling behind. That's a sign that the supports might eventually be alright to take away. >Women live longer than men: Since the stone age. Is this a discussion of jealousy, or sexism?…
http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2013/05/the-bigg...
It also appears the later differences in pay may have more to do with life choices. Such as raising a family, which believe it or not some women consider a higher priority than their careers. Blasphemy, I know, clearly a byproduct of the patriarchy.