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Elite Hacker Barnaby Jack 'overdosed on drugs'

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Re: Elite Hacker Barnaby Jack 'overdosed on drugs'

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Post by raverbashing »

jnardiello wrote: post #36
sillysaurus2 wrote: post #8

His physical symptoms indicated an accidental overdose of heroin, cocaine, and prescription drugs. The report said Mr Jack's girlfriend had found him lying in bed unresponsive, with "multiple bottles of beer and champagne in the garbage can". Mr Jack's death occurred shortly before he was due to demonstrate how heart implants could be hacked at the Black Hat security conference in Las Vegas. This is an awful tragedy,…

Cocaine can be injected. As well as any other substance. Drive him unconscious somehow (someone could push him drunk enough and sneak into his room. Then using some anesthetic totally unconscious), inject a lethal dose of drugs, cocaine and heroin. Now get out of the room somehow, either from the door or jumping out of the window. Ignoring the jumping out of the window part, seems quite plausible. Never trust girls t…

"Cocaine can be injected. As well as any other substance"

Yes, because coroners can't check for shot marks

Oh wait they can and do check for any possible injection marks and their type

Re: Elite Hacker Barnaby Jack 'overdosed on drugs'

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Post by undoware »

lgieron wrote: post #37
jnardiello wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cocaine can be injected. As well as any other substance. Drive him unconscious somehow (someone could push him drunk enough and sneak into his room. Then using some anesthetic totally unconscious), inject a lethal dose of drugs, cocaine and heroin. Now get out of the room somehow, either from the door or jumping out of the window. Ignoring the jumping out of the window part, seems quite plausible. Never trust girls t…

> Never trust girls that you meet at the pub, especially if they look interested in you and you are a computer guy. A recipe for an amazing life.

You're misreading it, it's actually a clever bit of self-deprecation that I'm going to steal the next time people are looking at me enviously.

Re: Elite Hacker Barnaby Jack 'overdosed on drugs'

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Post by [deleted] »

lgieron wrote: post #37
jnardiello wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cocaine can be injected. As well as any other substance. Drive him unconscious somehow (someone could push him drunk enough and sneak into his room. Then using some anesthetic totally unconscious), inject a lethal dose of drugs, cocaine and heroin. Now get out of the room somehow, either from the door or jumping out of the window. Ignoring the jumping out of the window part, seems quite plausible. Never trust girls t…

> Never trust girls that you meet at the pub, especially if they look interested in you and you are a computer guy. A recipe for an amazing life.

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Re: Elite Hacker Barnaby Jack 'overdosed on drugs'

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Post by jnardiello »

raverbashing wrote: post #41
jnardiello wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cocaine can be injected. As well as any other substance. Drive him unconscious somehow (someone could push him drunk enough and sneak into his room. Then using some anesthetic totally unconscious), inject a lethal dose of drugs, cocaine and heroin. Now get out of the room somehow, either from the door or jumping out of the window. Ignoring the jumping out of the window part, seems quite plausible. Never trust girls t…

"Cocaine can be injected. As well as any other substance" Yes, because coroners can't check for shot marks Oh wait they can and do check for any possible injection marks and their type

Yeah, so what? It was just to say that you don't have to force an unconscious man to "ingest" cocaine to cause an overdose. Come on.

Re: Elite Hacker Barnaby Jack 'overdosed on drugs'

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Post by vfclists »

sillysaurus2 wrote: post #8

His physical symptoms indicated an accidental overdose of heroin, cocaine, and prescription drugs. The report said Mr Jack's girlfriend had found him lying in bed unresponsive, with "multiple bottles of beer and champagne in the garbage can". Mr Jack's death occurred shortly before he was due to demonstrate how heart implants could be hacked at the Black Hat security conference in Las Vegas. This is an awful tragedy,…

It's not impossible, but the absence of evidence should lead us to accept the facts at face value

What facts? Such as the girlfriend stating that he took drugs. Would you by any chance know the girlfriend's name and how long they had been together?

What kind of genuine girlfriend is so ready to confirm that her dead boyfriend took drugs, and apparently failed to discourage him from his alleged habit?

Doesn't his good name matter to her?

Where do people such as yourself come from anyway? Count me out of 'us'

Re: Elite Hacker Barnaby Jack 'overdosed on drugs'

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Post by stordoff »

adim86 wrote: post #6

Who takes heroin and cocaine and "other drugs" and then goes to lie in bed?

Heroin and cocaine is a fairly common combination, and diphenhydramine is sometimes used to potentiate opiates (such as heroin). I've also seen Xanax be 'recommended' to handle the comedown from cocaine.

It doesn't seem like a particularly unlikely mix of drugs TBH.

Re: Elite Hacker Barnaby Jack 'overdosed on drugs'

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Post by [deleted] »

joshstrange wrote: post #21
pionar wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

According to the medical examiner's report[0], Jack's girlfriend and a friend told the investigators that he "would take opiates and use Xanax," and that he "would drink and occasionally use cocaine". So the answer is yes. [0] http://cdn2.sbnation.com/assets/3803095/barnaby_jack_autopsy...

Are there any other sources that he was a user other than her? I'm not trying to pull out my tin foil hat but if I had gone to all the trouble to fake an OD I'd pay the GF off (and/or threaten) as well to say he had done it before.

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Re: Elite Hacker Barnaby Jack 'overdosed on drugs'

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Post by dotBen »

wsc981 wrote: post #20
realo wrote: post #4

Heroine, cocaine _and_ a cocktail of other drugs? And the guy is a top notch hacker about to embarrass some pretty powerful conglomerates? Sorry but I don't care how many bottles of champagne were in the room trash bin. This has MURDER written all over. For the curious, here is an interesting story which might, or might not, be relevant: http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/suspicious_deaths_scie...

This story reminded me a bit about the death of UK hacker Gareth Willams[0], who worked for the secret service. [0]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Gareth_Williams

Not really beyond a) they both died and b) they both worked in the field of security. Any further comparison is a little contrived.

Gareth Williams was never a hacker - he was an academic mathematician who later became employed by GCHQ. Unlike Barnaby's death, neither alcohol or drugs played any part in his death.

The circumstances around William's passing is legitimately suspicious, however, given the 'ritualistic placing of sim cards' and the fact that no one has been able to prove it is possible to lock oneself in the sports holdal from the inside.

Re: Elite Hacker Barnaby Jack 'overdosed on drugs'

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Post by DanBC »

patmcguire wrote: post #24

Don't know if he travels a lot, but that's generally when people get overdoses. So much tolerance is psychological - a person readies their drugs with the same ritual in the same room - that their body doesn't have the same tolerance when it's taken another way. I think foul play

Tolerance isn't psychological. People may be using drugs of unknown strength or may be preparing them in different ways but they don't have heart attacks from psychological tolerance.

I agree that suspicion of foul play is premature. Hope he gets a good autopsy.

Re: Elite Hacker Barnaby Jack 'overdosed on drugs'

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Post by rmason »

sanswork wrote: post #23
realo wrote: post #4

Heroine, cocaine _and_ a cocktail of other drugs? And the guy is a top notch hacker about to embarrass some pretty powerful conglomerates? Sorry but I don't care how many bottles of champagne were in the room trash bin. This has MURDER written all over. For the curious, here is an interesting story which might, or might not, be relevant: http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/suspicious_deaths_scie...

Heroin and cocaine is a somewhat common mixture once you're heavy into drugs despite it's dangerousness. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speedball_(drug) It's the killer of lots of celebrities. The other drugs found in his system were Xanax and Benadryl again fairly common for people to take/to have in their system. Go read /r/drugs sometime a lot of those people regularly mix a ridiculous number of drugs.

It's similar to the death of John Belushi which was also from a mixture of heroin and cocaine known as a speedball:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Belushi

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