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Evernote, the bug-ridden elephant

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Re: Evernote, the bug-ridden elephant

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Post by orbitur »

Shivetya wrote: post #129
7952 wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

OneNote is fabulous. The way you can do multi-user stuff with just a shared folder is so much better than the cloud.

I use it at work, I would love to have it at home but it is not available for OS X which I do not want to understand why

MS Word on OS X has very OneNote-like features, just choose the Notebook view. I haven't used OneNote proper in a very long time (2007?), but notebook view Word 2011 does automatic lists and you can even doodle.

Might be worth a look.

Re: Evernote, the bug-ridden elephant

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Post by rikkus »

Eventually, after it was recommended by so many people, I installed Evernote on Android (on a fast new phone - Sony Xperia Z). I also signed up for 'premium'.

It was so sluggish when scrolling that I couldn't use it.

I contacted support and received this:

"As a valued customer of Evernote, you will receive support within 1 business day."

8 days later, I replied to ask why I hadn't received anything more.

3 days after that, I received a stock reply saying I should reboot and install the latest client.

Of course I had installed the latest client already, and rebooted to see if that helped. I think the app is just slow.

So the app is unusable and customer support don't give you what you pay for. I had simply thought, 'doomed product, will avoid in future' but I thought I'd relay this here seeing as the subject has been broached.

Re: Evernote, the bug-ridden elephant

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Post by mrmondo »

bdwalter wrote: post #84

I have been a loyal Evernote premium payer since 2009, and using it even longer. For a long time I recommended it to friends but since have stopped. I have developed some concerns with it over the years. 1. Fear of data loss... it's probably the largest part of my mistrust of all these dang cloud services that want to control/own me or otherwise lock me into their service. I run a 99.999% uptime, extreme scale, SaaS…

I am in a similar position and I couldn't agree with you more.

Please do let me know if you find something better.

Re: Evernote, the bug-ridden elephant

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Post by vasuadiga »

ethnomusicolog wrote: post #98
bdwalter wrote: post #84

I have been a loyal Evernote premium payer since 2009, and using it even longer. For a long time I recommended it to friends but since have stopped. I have developed some concerns with it over the years. 1. Fear of data loss... it's probably the largest part of my mistrust of all these dang cloud services that want to control/own me or otherwise lock me into their service. I run a 99.999% uptime, extreme scale, SaaS…

I have never used evernote, so I can't say anything about your use case, but wrt point 2, you should give http://workflowy.com a try.

+1 for workflowy. I have been using it for more than 2 years now. Can't live without it.

Re: Evernote, the bug-ridden elephant

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Post by happolati »

k-mcgrady wrote: post #125

I use it a lot an don't find it too buggy - but the interface is awful on iOS. They took a decent, simple interface (table view) screwed it up into some new skuomorphic design and then in iOS 7 took that and made it even worse. Here's a side by side of iOS 6 + 7. They are both terrible imho[1]. The Android app is much more simply designed and much nicer to use[2]. [1] http://cdn1.digitalartsonline.co.uk/cmsdata/slide…

I agree, the iOS UIs continue to disappoint.

Before my eyes can locate the note's content -- the reason I'm looking at the app in the first place -- my brain has to notice and dismiss all of the unchanging but visually dominant UI elements grabbing for my attention.

In iOS6 screenshot, the only information is "3570 Notes". We can assume that Tom Negrino didn't need a prompt to remember his own name.

At least the screenshot of iOS7 version has a few snippets of user content. But, was the decision to make everything green made by someone who uses the product heavily? I doubt it.

Re: Evernote, the bug-ridden elephant

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Post by orbitur »

derengel wrote: post #30
awa wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Onenote comes to mind, and it does OCR on client side so is quite fast. Also does audio transcription which can be enabled (Disabled by default). Also has version control built in, so you can you can look at older versions and do manual merges (if required) Disclaimer: Microsoft employee and Onenote user

Onenote is great but I think he wants something for OS X.

Word 2011 (OS X) offers OneNote-like functionality if you choose the Notebook view. Defaults to list, auto-headings, and it even lets you doodle in the margins. That's all I ever did in OneNote, so I'm not sure how feature complete Word 2011 is in comparison.

Re: Evernote, the bug-ridden elephant

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Post by Alex3917 »

If you store data in a format that's not future proof, using software that's not open source, then you don't really get to complain when your data disappears. Especially if you're not storing the files locally and making regular backups.

Re: Evernote, the bug-ridden elephant

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Post by knitatoms »

bdwalter wrote: post #84

I have been a loyal Evernote premium payer since 2009, and using it even longer. For a long time I recommended it to friends but since have stopped. I have developed some concerns with it over the years. 1. Fear of data loss... it's probably the largest part of my mistrust of all these dang cloud services that want to control/own me or otherwise lock me into their service. I run a 99.999% uptime, extreme scale, SaaS…

I recently replaced Evernote with the open source Zim: http://zim-wiki.org/

It's multiplatform, written in Pyhon, easily extensible and a truly fantastic piece of software that is well worth investigating.

Re: Evernote, the bug-ridden elephant

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Post by Paul12345534 »

awa wrote: post #18
jonursenbach wrote: post #2

I've been meaning to move off of Evernote because their OSX client is just slow as all hell. Are there any alternatives, aside from something like Dropbox? Evernote's OCR implementation was/is really useful.

Onenote comes to mind, and it does OCR on client side so is quite fast. Also does audio transcription which can be enabled (Disabled by default). Also has version control built in, so you can you can look at older versions and do manual merges (if required) Disclaimer: Microsoft employee and Onenote user

Happy OneNote user but I truly despise the API. All the other Office APIs are far more pleasant and functional.
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