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Senator presses NSA to reveal whether it spies on members of Congress

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Re: Senator presses NSA to reveal whether it spies on members of Congress

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Post by wil421 »

drdeadringer wrote: post #9
leeoniya wrote: post #4

"...if the NSA has spied, or is the NSA currently spying, on members of Congress or other American elected officials" It depends on your definitions of "has", "spied", "spying", "currently", "elected" and "members". So the answer is, "No".

I find it very depressing that semantics and definitions of fairly common-sense words are at the center of this particular set of weaseling.

Lawyer talk and double speak.

Bill Clinton got away with the Monica comment about sex and so will the next bunch about something different.

Re: Senator presses NSA to reveal whether it spies on members of Congress

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Post by ProAm »

saraid216 wrote: post #6
ProAm wrote: post #3

Uhh of course they do. Why would they be exempt? If anything they are a legitimate target for fears of compromising national security.

The goal is to have an answer on record.

It's pretty clear they do not care about being honest on record. Nor do we do anything about it when we find them in a lie.

Re: Senator presses NSA to reveal whether it spies on members of Congress

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Post by walshemj »

ProAm wrote: post #3

Uhh of course they do. Why would they be exempt? If anything they are a legitimate target for fears of compromising national security.

Well the soviet sleepers where trying to make Friends and contacts with people in government so if a congressman or Senator had an "aide" like "Katia" Zatuliveter an Aide to the MP for Portsmouth who is on the defense committee

I bet the FBI counter espionage guys would be interested

And in the Past MI5 did catch a US diplomat working for the nazi's s well as catching an MP spying for the opposition John Stone House for the STB.

Re: Senator presses NSA to reveal whether it spies on members of Congress

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Post by saraid216 »

ProAm wrote: post #14
saraid216 wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The goal is to have an answer on record.

It's pretty clear they do not care about being honest on record. Nor do we do anything about it when we find them in a lie.

I said the point was to have an answer on record. The point is not to have the truth on record; that has never been useful.

Re: Senator presses NSA to reveal whether it spies on members of Congress

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Post by SideburnsOfDoom »

sethbannon wrote: post #12

This is brilliant. This is how we'll get legislation passed reigning in the NSA. Elected officials will wake up and ask "Wait, you mean they're spying on ME?!"

"leaders, go out in public and express intense indignation over the fact that the privacy of their citizens is being systematically breached, and genuine indignation when they learn that their privacy has also been targeted." - Glen Greenwald https://github.com/poppingtonic/greenwald-30c3-keynote/blob/...

Re: Senator presses NSA to reveal whether it spies on members of Congress

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Post by SideburnsOfDoom »

saraid216 wrote: post #16
ProAm wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's pretty clear they do not care about being honest on record. Nor do we do anything about it when we find them in a lie.

I said the point was to have an answer on record. The point is not to have the truth on record; that has never been useful.

So then, how is having an answer on record going to be useful?

Re: Senator presses NSA to reveal whether it spies on members of Congress

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