The thing is, people who are let go are going to be in a sour mood. They are often going to think of negative things, even (especially?) if they had a very positive experience, and ordinarily this would not be a signal that is important. But for a company that is reducing its burn rate, obviously public signals like what someone decides to say are hugely important. So it is really a reminder: "don't bad-mouth us plea…
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#42If I don’t agree to this nondisparagement clause, I will not receive my severance — in this case, the equivalent of two weeks of pay. For two weeks pay, I would not agree to anything. For two years pay, I would consider it. I had no idea that professionals were given such ridiculous offers and expected to sign off on them. At my last job, I was guaranteed 1 year of severance in the event of losing my job. Fortunately…
What country, industry?
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#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
No it doesn't, two weeks pay at that salary doesn't get you anything unemployment won't cover.
If you can survive the gap between getting paid and getting the unemployment, which is why most people will take it. I would do the same if I were back in the states considering the job market. Who knows when I'd find another similar paying job.
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#44My 2 cents... The non-disparagement is a trade. You trade not saying anything bad about them publicly, and they agree not to say anything bad about you during a reference check. You get a positive (or perhaps generic "He worked here from X to Y, that's all we can say") reference, and they don't have to worry about a book coming out trashing them. The amount of cash is secondary. The real thing is, if you want to rema…
Actually, legally, they cannot say anything more than "He worked here from X to Y, that's all we can say". You don't need any agreement from them.
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#45If I don’t agree to this nondisparagement clause, I will not receive my severance — in this case, the equivalent of two weeks of pay. For two weeks pay, I would not agree to anything. For two years pay, I would consider it. I had no idea that professionals were given such ridiculous offers and expected to sign off on them. At my last job, I was guaranteed 1 year of severance in the event of losing my job. Fortunately…
In what country are you working?
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#46I wouldn't sign that any more than I'd sign a contract that gave the company everything that I produce in my own time. Both are attempts by the corporation to dissolve my agency as a human being. The only right answer is no.
Such contracts ("produced on own-time belongs to company") are common at large software companies. If you are in California, such a contract may not hold water. Any one have experience with a big co (outside Cali) where they were able to negotiate this clause away?
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#471. Isn't this against the U.S. Constitutional right to free speech?
2. I'd say that if you had this signed then it would be under duress.
Not sure how this can be enforceable!
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#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
You refuse exit interviews even when you are the one who's decided to leave?
Companies could save themselves a lot of pretense with exit interviews and just assume the following: If a good person leaves your company, it is because of one or more of the following: 1. You can't (or won't) pay them as much as someone else. 2. They aren't happy in the culture of your company. 3. They aren't happy with the type of work they are doing. 4. They don't see a bright future with your company - either fo…
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#49The company is offering extra weeks of pay in return for not attacking them. Why is this different than getting paid to do your job or meet a contract in other respects?
If you write a public review 3 years later about how a product from that company sucks, that could be held as a breach of this contract you signed, and would at the very least be a non-free legal headache for you. A headache that would likely cost you much more than the company to deal with, to boot.
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#50My 2 cents... The non-disparagement is a trade. You trade not saying anything bad about them publicly, and they agree not to say anything bad about you during a reference check. You get a positive (or perhaps generic "He worked here from X to Y, that's all we can say") reference, and they don't have to worry about a book coming out trashing them. The amount of cash is secondary. The real thing is, if you want to rema…
Actually, legally, they cannot say anything more than "He worked here from X to Y, that's all we can say". You don't need any agreement from them.