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Intermittent fasting: The good things it did to my body

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Re: Intermittent fasting: The good things it did to my body

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Post by maxerickson »

stickydink wrote: post #3

I don't think we're even close to really understanding how the body works here. I'm not obese, but I gain weight from eating a little more, very easily. Last summer, I followed a Keto ("ultra low carb, high fat, medium protein") diet for about 4 months. After the first week of feeling terrible, a well-known side effect, I felt perfectly fine. It felt like I was binge eating, I limited what I could eat and just went m…

What's a big plate of bacon?

5 or 6 slices of bacon and 3 eggs is in the ballpark of 500 calories, which is a fairly light meal for someone at 200 pounds.

Re: Intermittent fasting: The good things it did to my body

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Post by jimeuxx »

ehsanu1 wrote: post #15
stickydink wrote: post #3

I don't think we're even close to really understanding how the body works here. I'm not obese, but I gain weight from eating a little more, very easily. Last summer, I followed a Keto ("ultra low carb, high fat, medium protein") diet for about 4 months. After the first week of feeling terrible, a well-known side effect, I felt perfectly fine. It felt like I was binge eating, I limited what I could eat and just went m…

fulmato, you were hellbanned after your first comment saying "this is bs". Not a great comment, but hellbanning for a single comment is quite extreme. Posting your useful comment here: On top of /r/keto Dr. Peter Attia has a great blog on this topic http://eatingacademy.com/ It's a great resource for a more scientific explanation of what happens to the metabolism when keto-adapted and on the effects of carbohydrates…

People like Attia live in a parallel universe where there are healthy populations on Earth that eat no carbs and East Asia doesn't exist. My Japanese is good enough now to explain to my wife's active octogenarian grandparents why rice is going to give them heart disease and diabetes.

In all seriousness, the world of online nutrition is a nasty and insane place. There's a lot of dogma and cognitive dissonance in something that borders on religion among the followers of gurus like Attia. If you're simply looking for an objective explanation of science rather than an ideology, look elsewhere.

Re: Intermittent fasting: The good things it did to my body

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Post by bluedino »

Theodores wrote: post #39

A lot of the diets mentioned on this thread are a long way from the diet used in this article. Note it is not mentioned in the article, however it is mostly vegetables with some fish. That is a long way from 'chipotle'!!! It is worth bearing in mind that a lot of things we consider to be food really does not want to be food. Grains want to be carried away by the wind to plant themselves somewhere else. Their ancestor…

Apex predators are hard to kill for humans (or other animals) and as they usually don't taste as good as slower, fatter animals.

Re: Intermittent fasting: The good things it did to my body

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Post by beagle3 »

sfjailbird wrote: post #37
beagle3 wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Note that in ramadaan they also don't drink any water during the day; and many who can afford to, flip their schedule to sleep through the day so they can eat at night. Also, according to superfreakonomics, this wreaks havoc on gestating babies. Seems like all harm and no benefit fasting (which, perhaps is the idea - Jewish fasting on Yom Kippur is specifically spoused to be a soul-torture/soul-searching experience -…

Pregnant women are exempt from fasting during ramadan.

So are Jewish woman on Yom Kippur - but many of them still fast; enough to change date-of-birth distribution for Jews and health-of-newborns for Muslims.

Re: Intermittent fasting: The good things it did to my body

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Post by Blahah »

collyw wrote: post #40
awjr wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I eat some fruit in moderation, but avoid juices and carbonated drinks which use high-fructose corn syrup. IIRC Fructose is processed in a similar way to the way alcohol is processed in your system. It's not an energy source that can be used by your body without processing. I also believe it's one of those energy types that is readily stored as fat.

I read that the liver is the only organ that can process fructose directly. I tried taking honey before bed in order to avoid hangover. Seemed to work, but may have been placebo effect.

did you try not drinking before bed?

Re: Intermittent fasting: The good things it did to my body

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Post by codingdave »

Theodores wrote: post #39

A lot of the diets mentioned on this thread are a long way from the diet used in this article. Note it is not mentioned in the article, however it is mostly vegetables with some fish. That is a long way from 'chipotle'!!! It is worth bearing in mind that a lot of things we consider to be food really does not want to be food. Grains want to be carried away by the wind to plant themselves somewhere else. Their ancestor…

Just FYI, botanically speaking, grains are fruit.

Re: Intermittent fasting: The good things it did to my body

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Post by nkuttler »

tokenizer wrote: post #35
bobowzki wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm a physician. While it's good to lose weight (at least if you are overweight), keep in mind that losing weight is not the only interesting outcome. Any diet might have long term side effects. Such as an increased risk of cancer, arteriosclerosis etc. Also remember that weight loss is not the only benefit of exercise. That said, congrats on losing weight. Now start exercising :-)

Regarding the diet above, which limits your sugar intake to 20 grams a day, what are some potential consequences of starving your body of sugars? Sounds good in theory (sugar is bad), but it sounds stressful (body starts producing ketones due to suck a lack of sugar, flu like symptoms for a week).

Producing ketones is perfectly normal. The flu-like symptoms can usually be avoided by easing into a low-carb/keto diet and/or ingesting sodium, chicken broth is normally recommended at the early stages.

Potential consequences of reduced carb intake are weight loss. It can be used to treat type 2 diabetes, epilepsy, a wide range of neurological disorders, some cancers (yeah, really), and much more.

I'm not aware of any scientic data that found adverse consequences. You get a lot of resistace from health professionals because for the last decades what you eat on a ketogenic diet has been blamed for heart diseases or high cholesterol, but there never was scientific evidence to back up those claims.

Re: Intermittent fasting: The good things it did to my body

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Post by collyw »

Blahah wrote: post #45
collyw wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I read that the liver is the only organ that can process fructose directly. I tried taking honey before bed in order to avoid hangover. Seemed to work, but may have been placebo effect.

did you try not drinking before bed?

usually if I was aware enough to try honey I accompanied it with water.

Re: Intermittent fasting: The good things it did to my body

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Post by PavlovsCat »

bluedino wrote: post #43
Theodores wrote: post #39

A lot of the diets mentioned on this thread are a long way from the diet used in this article. Note it is not mentioned in the article, however it is mostly vegetables with some fish. That is a long way from 'chipotle'!!! It is worth bearing in mind that a lot of things we consider to be food really does not want to be food. Grains want to be carried away by the wind to plant themselves somewhere else. Their ancestor…

Apex predators are hard to kill for humans (or other animals) and as they usually don't taste as good as slower, fatter animals.

What is taste other than a way to get us to eat things that are healthy for us? For example, I would think we like sweets because fruit are sweet, not because there is inherent value in things tasting sweet.

> Apex predators are hard to kill for humans

No longer true, and we still don't eat them a whole lot.

Re: Intermittent fasting: The good things it did to my body

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Post by hessenwolf »

maxerickson wrote: post #41
stickydink wrote: post #3

I don't think we're even close to really understanding how the body works here. I'm not obese, but I gain weight from eating a little more, very easily. Last summer, I followed a Keto ("ultra low carb, high fat, medium protein") diet for about 4 months. After the first week of feeling terrible, a well-known side effect, I felt perfectly fine. It felt like I was binge eating, I limited what I could eat and just went m…

What's a big plate of bacon? 5 or 6 slices of bacon and 3 eggs is in the ballpark of 500 calories, which is a fairly light meal for someone at 200 pounds.

Waxy fat though. Gotta watch those arteries. Damn tasty pork.
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