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Re: ATF uses rogue tactics in storefront stings across nation

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It's for this reason that I'm strongly in favor of body-mounted surveillance cameras for all public servants. The key is making sure that everyone has access to the data, not just some surveillance team in a back room. For stings and such like this, the footage would be held until the end of the operation, but would be required to be released immediately at the end of the operation. "Missing time" would be rigorously…

I think you are slightly to extreme in your publication of the video. I agree that law enforcement officers (and probably most public servants) do not have an expectation of privacy while on duty, however other people who get recorded do. If the police have a video of me talking with the police than I would not necessarily want that video publicly accessible. However, if I am charged with a crime, those videos should…

You're right. I was spitballing; there'd need to be safety mechanisms (The devil/corruption potential is in the details) to ensure situations like the one you hypothesized wouldn't result in the privacy of people who aren't public servants being compromised with cameras involved.

Re: ATF uses rogue tactics in storefront stings across nation

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Check out the controversy over the recent High River, Alberta gun seizures. During a recent flood, numerous evacuated homes that were entered by the RCMP had their houseowners' firearms seized, regardless of whether they were stored securely and legally. A total of 542 firearms were seized. There are ongoing debates as to whether any homes were entered for the sole purpose of seizure.[1] "Plenty" of gun carriers is a…

The same thing happened in New Orleans after Katrina. Personally, I would have no problem with this as long as they logged the seized property correctly and provided means for the owners to retrieve their property at a later date.

It's one thing if the RCMP announces their intent, and works with property owners to properly secure the guns.

It's entirely another for it to be "discovered" by other parties, and then be explained post-facto. Suspicious, to say the least.

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