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Re: Free Bootstrap Themes

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Am I the only one who never care about licenses? It says "free" so I download it. What is the worst thing that can happen?

https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html

Yeah some not-so-diligent person added some "free" code to our commercial, closed-source application.

"Free" as in GPL2.

Ripped that out pretty quickly.

Re: Free Bootstrap Themes

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First thing I check when I read "Free" is I see what the license is (MIT/BSD). Unfortunately, you can't find out what license the theme uses until you get the actual theme. You don't get the actual theme until you put your email address in. I couldn't submit my email address until I subscribed to the newsletter (but upon trying it again in incognito I wasn't prompted to subscribe -- might have been an error on my par…

Am I the only one who never care about licenses? It says "free" so I download it. What is the worst thing that can happen?

"Free" for what? You need a license because you want to know exactly what you can and can't do, especially if you are a company. And it better be a well known license, that has stood in trial.

The worst thing that can happen is going to jail or having to repair whatever damage they claim you have caused. Though it's very unlikely in your case and for this library.

Re: Free Bootstrap Themes

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First thing I check when I read "Free" is I see what the license is (MIT/BSD). Unfortunately, you can't find out what license the theme uses until you get the actual theme. You don't get the actual theme until you put your email address in. I couldn't submit my email address until I subscribed to the newsletter (but upon trying it again in incognito I wasn't prompted to subscribe -- might have been an error on my par…

Am I the only one who never care about licenses? It says "free" so I download it. What is the worst thing that can happen?

As an individual with personal projects, probably nothing bad will ever happen even if you mangle licenses to their fullest extent.

The issue becomes when you then decide to build something commercial with photos/libraries/etc that have non-commercial/attribution features to them. If I wanted to use this theme to build a Startup, it could become very enticing to companies to target litigation against me. Above and beyond litigation, it could be a PR nightmare if press found out I had built something on top of code that I wasn't allowed to use. Think of all the questions it would raise -- well if he used non-commercial code commercially, what if he had stolen code from other places?

It also lends a sense of credibility to the project/photo/download in that the author thought about the way that his creation was to be used. We used a "free" open source iPhone mockup that seemed perfectly legitimate, and implemented it into one of our client's websites. A few months later, Getty Images had detected that a commercial copyrighted image had been used in the background of the iPhone mockup and sent a litigation letter to our client demanding payment. It was an expensive lesson for us to learn that just because something says it's one thing doesn't mean we can take them at their word.

Re: Free Bootstrap Themes

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First thing I check when I read "Free" is I see what the license is (MIT/BSD). Unfortunately, you can't find out what license the theme uses until you get the actual theme. You don't get the actual theme until you put your email address in. I couldn't submit my email address until I subscribed to the newsletter (but upon trying it again in incognito I wasn't prompted to subscribe -- might have been an error on my par…

I did some poking around, and the license information can be found here: http://www.blacktie.co/about-themes/ It uses the Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 license.

Creative Commons are not supposed to be used for code, they say that themselves.

Re: Free Bootstrap Themes

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Am I the only one who never care about licenses? It says "free" so I download it. What is the worst thing that can happen?

https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html

For some reason, I had never read the GNU definition of free software. Very interesting thanks!

One question though, did I understand it correctly or have a got it wrong:

I can make a free software (free as in speech), and charge you X amount of money for it, but it is within your right to sell it to the next person as long as you keep the freedom to modify etc?

Re: Free Bootstrap Themes

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Just downloaded a theme by using a throwaway email address and have already customized it. Looks really slick!

I have also just discovered fontawesome, which just shows that I really need to improve my front-end programming skills...

Re: Free Bootstrap Themes

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The themes are beautiful and the presentation is nice but the required email opt in totally turns me off. Why not just host these on github? I actually want to be on your newsletter but I don't like that you are forcing people to do so [1]. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7002338

The "tweet to download" model is bad because you're forcing someone to endorse a product publicly before they even get a chance to try it, thus potentially hurting their credibility.

On the other hand, the "leave email to download" model is completely fair. Not only is it used by the overwhelming majority of companies (most apps require some form of signing up), but you're also the only one receiving those email. So the cost is entirely personal.

So in this case, it's really a matter of whether or not the transaction is worth it for you, and I don't think you have any grounds to complain.

P.S. I'm not the author by the way, I just get ticked off seeing that objection, especially when somebody is already not charging any money for their products.

Re: Free Bootstrap Themes

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The themes are beautiful and the presentation is nice but the required email opt in totally turns me off. Why not just host these on github? I actually want to be on your newsletter but I don't like that you are forcing people to do so [1]. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7002338

The "tweet to download" model is bad because you're forcing someone to endorse a product publicly before they even get a chance to try it, thus potentially hurting their credibility. On the other hand, the "leave email to download" model is completely fair. Not only is it used by the overwhelming majority of companies (most apps require some form of signing up), but you're also the only one receiving those email. So…

Hey Sacha, I'm a huge reader of your blog and follow your work. I completely agree with what you're saying but I think you might be misunderstanding me. I agree that email to download is not a bad system. The problem I have is that in order to be apart to download the theme, you need to opt into his newsletter. This is different from registration because when you register, you are not forced to opt into a newsletter. This product isn't free. The cost having any theme is to be apart of an audience this creator is building. This is a weak cost admittedly but I think that it turns a lot of people off that they have to join his news letter because that doesn't fit in line with many people's definition of free.

Re: Free Bootstrap Themes

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For the curious, I did some digging and found the following:

Blacktie.co was created by Carlos Alvares (http://www.alvarez.is/). He's a designer who has a number of paid themes on https://wrapbootstrap.com/user/Basicoh. Blacktie appears to be his own site where he gives away some free themes in exchange for your email address.

Re: Free Bootstrap Themes

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Maybe people just put time into their appearance? It's amazing how far a good diet, good sleep, exercise, and some grooming can go.

Real hackers are fat, have Unix beards and drink Jolt Cola.

Ahhhh.. Jolt Cola.. them were the days (until I was eating museli and 1/4 of a tooth came off :) heh. Good times. I've not seen Jolt in years - used to drink it in Ireland but haven't seen it in NZ.
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