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Ask HN: Getting a CS "degree" via MIT OpenCourseWare?

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Long story short I went to a local small college and had a very miserable 2/4 years. $20k gone and I didn't learn a thing.

I want a proper CS education, but I messed up my high school and theres no way I'm getting into any good schools locally.

I was discussing with my parents and thinking of dedicating a few years to signing up and passing a full CS degree curriculum via MIT OpenCourseWare. I'm currently a mobile consultant and have been in the field for awhile, I'm mainly doing this to get some sort of accreditation in my field beyond just high school and university is out of the picture and to get a more in depth proper understanding of computer science.

I want to be able to take a complex problem and design an elegant solution to it. Right now I'm just a code monkey with no real world application beyond "code this according to spec".

How would potential employers view this?

Has anyone done this before and been hired?

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#3
Please notice you won't get a degree from MIT OpenCourseWare.

"No registration, no enrollment, and no grades or credits are offered" from http://ocw.mit.edu/help/get-started-with-ocw/

But It is worthing to spend time on online courses now. I have finished some courses on https://www.coursera.org/ and https://www.udemy.com. I can always learn from the best. I finished my Bachelor's degree and Master's degree more than a decade ago. If I were able to access those course at that time, I wouldn't go to schools to waste my time and my parents' and my money. But that's a personal choice.

And I don't think my degrees matter much for job seeking nowadays. You can easily demonstrate your abilities by developing apps or contributing to Open Source projects.

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post #3

Please notice you won't get a degree from MIT OpenCourseWare. "No registration, no enrollment, and no grades or credits are offered" from http://ocw.mit.edu/help/get-started-with-ocw/ But It is worthing to spend time on online courses now. I have finished some courses on https://www.coursera.org/ and https://www.udemy.com . I can always learn from the best. I finished my Bachelor's degree and Master's degree more tha…

Nobody in the real world cares about open source projects from my personal experience. I realize I won't get a degree, just wondering if people have ever been hired after spending time on something like this.

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To the degree it is about a credential, Western Governor's University is a reasonably priced option - http:\\www.wgu.edu

While MIT might offer good courses, they're designed to be tough for a very select group of the best prepared students even with the support resources such as Teaching Assistants and labs and peer students and professors with office hours that are accessible only on campus. Without those, it can only be tougher. In my opinion, tougher to the level that a multi-year project has a low chance of success even for a person of above average motivation and intelligence.

Personally, I think a CS education from an average school will probably better prepare anyone motivated enough to have a chance of completing a full slate of MIT courses as self study. You can always get a graduate degree someplace more selective.

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post #5

To the degree it is about a credential, Western Governor's University is a reasonably priced option - http:\\www.wgu.edu While MIT might offer good courses, they're designed to be tough for a very select group of the best prepared students even with the support resources such as Teaching Assistants and labs and peer students and professors with office hours that are accessible only on campus. Without those, it can on…

> To the degree it is about a credential, Western Governor's University is a reasonably priced option - http:\\www.wgu.edu

Not if you want a CS degree, which WGU doesn't offer (WGU does offer a variety of IT degrees, which may be an acceptable substiture, or even the preferred option for some people, but its certainly not even remotely the same thing as a CS degree.)

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#7
Related to the question here, MITx is offering a MOOC-based certificate (one of edX's inaugual XSeries certificates) in Foundations of Computer Science -- but the first class that is required for the series has already finished.

https://www.edx.org/xseries

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post #5

To the degree it is about a credential, Western Governor's University is a reasonably priced option - http:\\www.wgu.edu While MIT might offer good courses, they're designed to be tough for a very select group of the best prepared students even with the support resources such as Teaching Assistants and labs and peer students and professors with office hours that are accessible only on campus. Without those, it can on…

> To the degree it is about a credential, Western Governor's University is a reasonably priced option - http:\\www.wgu.edu Not if you want a CS degree, which WGU doesn't offer (WGU does offer a variety of IT degrees, which may be an acceptable substiture, or even the preferred option for some people, but its certainly not even remotely the same thing as a CS degree.)

I agree that the difference is important to the degree that the concern is over education rather than about credentials. That's why I also mentioned the value of a CS degree from a less prestigious institution when the student is highly motivated.

But if we're just talking about credentials, then a relevant degree plus experience gives anyone who wants to hire the OP a green light.

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post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> To the degree it is about a credential, Western Governor's University is a reasonably priced option - http:\\www.wgu.edu Not if you want a CS degree, which WGU doesn't offer (WGU does offer a variety of IT degrees, which may be an acceptable substiture, or even the preferred option for some people, but its certainly not even remotely the same thing as a CS degree.)

I agree that the difference is important to the degree that the concern is over education rather than about credentials. That's why I also mentioned the value of a CS degree from a less prestigious institution when the student is highly motivated. But if we're just talking about credentials, then a relevant degree plus experience gives anyone who wants to hire the OP a green light.

> I agree that the difference is important to the degree that the concern is over education rather than about credentials.

The difference is important if the concern is about credentials, too; when the concern is about credentials, then exactly what the degree is in can be very important.

CS and IT mean different things, including (perhaps especially) to people who are evaluating credentials. (In some cases, IT may be preferred, in other cases, CS may be.)

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#10
They are excellent courses if your primary interest is elec engineering. 6.004 is prob the best course I took, all the lectures are online and course material from 2012. Of course you are missing recitation for many courses and TA access though. The assignments for 6.857 and lecture notes are really good for self learning too. As for a job you would have to prove your skills with a portfolio which is a repository of code you've done and develop for some open source project you are interested in. You might find job offers come to you by being helpful on their dev mailing list and somebody notices.
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