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Searching the Internet for evidence of time travelers

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Re: Searching the Internet for evidence of time travelers

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"...say to kill Hitler." Everybody kills Hitler on their first trip. http://www.abyssapexzine.com/wikihistory/

Thanks for that link, i haven't laughed this hard in ages

Well, then starting to read at http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HitlersTimeTravel... may be dangerous to your health.

Re: Searching the Internet for evidence of time travelers

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"...say to kill Hitler." Everybody kills Hitler on their first trip. http://www.abyssapexzine.com/wikihistory/

Why just Hitler? Stalin and Mao were arguably equally as bad: http://necrometrics.com/tyrants.htm And there are monsters like Leopold II of Belgium (possible victims in the range 2-15 million) who hardly anyone remembers: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leopold_II_of_Belgium#Exploitat... Actually, as hardly anyone remembers Leopold II maybe he is the ideal target.... :-| [NB I eventually remembered that I'm against the…

7000 personally executed over 28 consecutive nights, through a shot in the base of the skull while wearing a leather apron, gloves and hood, 300 a night for 10 hours each night, one every 3 minutes?

That's some character...

It takes a certain kind of monster to order the execution of 7000 officer prisoners of war. It takes another kind to carry it out personally with a collection of pistols brought in especially for the job.

Re: Searching the Internet for evidence of time travelers

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Yes, I would probably go back to 2009 and mine bitcoins (or fill captchas for 5 BTC a piece..) with a CPU..

Good point. All the early bitcoin miners are clearly suspect. And Satoshi Nakamoto's sudden appearance and then disappearance now makes total sense.

Combining time travel and computation has interesting results:

http://www.frc.ri.cmu.edu/~hpm/project.archive/general.artic...

Re: Searching the Internet for evidence of time travelers

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On a tangentially related note, the tabletop roleplaying game Continuum has, IMO, the most interesting description of time travel and a time travellers community.

The premise is simple. What is the most logical thing for the first time traveller to do? He would travel to the future to get his hands on the most advanced time machine possible. In the end, the best is the human mind. They time (and space) travel with a simple thought.

It has a single "timeline", i.e. changing something in the past doesn't "split the timeline" but creates a paradox, that translates to "frag" on all people related to the changed action. This makes people want to correct these paradoxes.

Example, I go back in time and kill Hitler. It frags a LOT of people. The good guys want to correct the frag. They could go back in my timeline and prevent me from doing it, fragging me. If they don't want to frag me, they could switch Hitler with a Robot or something. I don't get fragged because still I shot something I though was Hitler, yet Hitler remains alive.

Re: Searching the Internet for evidence of time travelers

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Isn't the issue here that they are describing the methods through which they are trying to determine time travel. In effect, telling anyone in the future exactly what not to do. Let's also assume that somebody had a reason to travel into the past, say to kill Hitler. Our timeline would record that an Austrian artist was murdered in the 1920s. We would not consider this historically significant. I think time travel is…

And have you thought about how many potential hitlers were pruned in the WW2 ... every one that died in the conflict could be much worse than him. So maybe Hitler was a historical fuse. A maniac just 20 years later could have destroyed humanity. Dead serious here, assume that nuclear weapons were available from day1. So maybe there was time travel manipulation to ensure WWII so that humanity could survive.

I think Stephen Fry wrote an alternative history book based on that premise.

Re: Searching the Internet for evidence of time travelers

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There is no such thing as time travel. There is only teleportation. Because you have to have 4(or 10) fixed coordinates to move. Just time travel means you will be in vacuum, rock or middle of a star the moment you arrive. Since we already found the higgs I think the next line of research should be what exactly gives a particle "the where".

That point is often brought up. But we don't really know how a time-machine could potentially work, so why is teleportation a necessity? If you want to travel to the future you would abuse time delation. While all means to do so pose certain problems none of them involve teleportation. If traveling to the past would work in a similar way the time-machine would move trough every moment until it reaches its destination. If it never has to leave earth or its orbit to do so it would always be affected by gravity and as such end up where you want it to.

Re: Searching the Internet for evidence of time travelers

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Why just Hitler? Stalin and Mao were arguably equally as bad: http://necrometrics.com/tyrants.htm And there are monsters like Leopold II of Belgium (possible victims in the range 2-15 million) who hardly anyone remembers: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leopold_II_of_Belgium#Exploitat... Actually, as hardly anyone remembers Leopold II maybe he is the ideal target.... :-| [NB I eventually remembered that I'm against the…

7000 personally executed over 28 consecutive nights, through a shot in the base of the skull while wearing a leather apron, gloves and hood, 300 a night for 10 hours each night, one every 3 minutes? That's some character... It takes a certain kind of monster to order the execution of 7000 officer prisoners of war. It takes another kind to carry it out personally with a collection of pistols brought in especially for…

I can recommend (if that is the correct term) the book "Stalin: The Court of the Red Tsar" for a chilling description of the leadership of the Soviet Union from the early 30s until Stalin's death:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Stalin-The-Court-Red-Tsar/dp/0753817...

Re: Searching the Internet for evidence of time travelers

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On a tangentially related note, the tabletop roleplaying game Continuum has, IMO, the most interesting description of time travel and a time travellers community. The premise is simple. What is the most logical thing for the first time traveller to do? He would travel to the future to get his hands on the most advanced time machine possible. In the end, the best is the human mind. They time (and space) travel with a…

Wouldn't we as well need a counterpart to "frag" such as "pop" for all the people saved/born due to the change? Then if the "good guys" corrected the original "frags" those "popped" people would be re-"fragged" which would cause a split group of "good guys" to attempt to "correct" the previously "corrected" history?

Re: Searching the Internet for evidence of time travelers

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I'm not sure why time travellers from the future would bother to leave prescient messages on the net. What's the motivation? Something like graffiti artists tagging difficult locations? What I can see them (hypothetically) doing is manipulating present-day financial markets by exploiting their knowledge of future events (e.g. sudden commodity shortages or unexpected mineral discoveries) to increase their wealth. Even…

Yes, I would probably go back to 2009 and mine bitcoins (or fill captchas for 5 BTC a piece..) with a CPU..

If time travel was possible there would be a lot of ways to make money more efficiently than with bitcoins.
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