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Re: Show HN: Use any text as a domain name

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Post by vidyesh » Thu, Jan 02, 2014, 7:07 AM UTC

gbog wrote: post #95

This is quite an interesting experiment, and a step in the good direction, which should and must lead us to the complete removal of domain names. Why are domain names bad? That should be obvious. The main symptom of domain names' inherent brokenness is that the law must patch it so that an unknown squatter cannot kidnap some domain, e.g. register "france.com" and ransom it to the people who are most qualified to clai…

The concept just covers hash-n-slash but you also touched a very different concept of p2p content delivery.

But talking about hash-n-slash why it is bad. Just like domains have the issue of being kidnapped so would be the keywords. For example with the hash-n-slash you would never know where you will end up being when you search for "france". By giving search engine the liberty to direct me to a site I lose the ability to manually choose france.com when some SEO guy has made sure that #://france would lead of francegiggly.com

Same goes with every other keyword, we already have a keyword battle on search engines and it would be better limiting that battle to search engines only. If we push that to browser itself it would be just be chaotic and misleading to people who don't really understand domain authority.

Imagine this being done for pushing phishing website when trying to go to your bank's login page. I get it most bookmark it but many don't and new account holders?

Its just a proof of concept and in reality it has many constraints, the search engine and domain world isn't that broken yet that we need an alternate solution.

As much as its difficult to get relevant domain names its still not impossible to settle for something similar to what you wanted.

Re: Show HN: Use any text as a domain name

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Post by munimkazia » Thu, Jan 02, 2014, 7:10 AM UTC

omegote wrote: post #84

Aaand another Chrome extension that bundles jQuery just to do a couple of element selections that could have been done using querySelectorAll...

Fortunately, it is open source. Sending a pull request later this evening when I fix this.

Re: Show HN: Use any text as a domain name

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Post by veidelis » Thu, Jan 02, 2014, 7:11 AM UTC

penguincaravan wrote: post #40

TeMPOraL wrote: post #31

I might be missing something, but I completely don't get this idea, especially with the examples provided by the author. I have two major concerns: > Bind searches to domain names, eg "food in chicago" => f02970848a63988965aa40cd368ffcf9046209ca.com This IMO is bad, and goes in completely wrong direction. We've invented search engines to have such phrases not bound to a particular domain. Who would handle the "#://fo…

You're right, looks like someone already bought f02970848a63988965aa40cd368ffcf9046209ca.com

..and my company's proxy server doesn't like it "Your request was denied because of its content categorization: "Malicious Sources/Malnets"

Re: Show HN: Use any text as a domain name

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Post by yoyo1999 » Thu, Jan 02, 2014, 7:32 AM UTC

There was a Chinese company call 3721. They did a similar thing about 10 year ago. They were acquired by Yahoo. Yahoo 3721 was closed about 5 years ago.

Re: Show HN: Use any text as a domain name

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Post by gbog » Thu, Jan 02, 2014, 7:50 AM UTC

MichaelGG wrote: post #98

gbog wrote: post #95

This is quite an interesting experiment, and a step in the good direction, which should and must lead us to the complete removal of domain names. Why are domain names bad? That should be obvious. The main symptom of domain names' inherent brokenness is that the law must patch it so that an unknown squatter cannot kidnap some domain, e.g. register "france.com" and ransom it to the people who are most qualified to clai…

How does this solve anything? Instead of registering france.com, I'll register the hash of "France". Adding a level of indirection hasn't provided any benefits. People can already register domains like "food-in-chicago.com" or "for-sale-baby-clothes.com". Your contrived example about "Google" meaning "China" in Chinese, is irrelevant. The .CN registrar can enforce whatever rules they want. The US .COM registrar can h…

The problem is that .COM is de facto the universal entry point.

Re: Show HN: Use any text as a domain name

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Post by gbog » Thu, Jan 02, 2014, 7:52 AM UTC

vidyesh wrote: post #101

gbog wrote: post #95

This is quite an interesting experiment, and a step in the good direction, which should and must lead us to the complete removal of domain names. Why are domain names bad? That should be obvious. The main symptom of domain names' inherent brokenness is that the law must patch it so that an unknown squatter cannot kidnap some domain, e.g. register "france.com" and ransom it to the people who are most qualified to clai…

The concept just covers hash-n-slash but you also touched a very different concept of p2p content delivery. But talking about hash-n-slash why it is bad. Just like domains have the issue of being kidnapped so would be the keywords. For example with the hash-n-slash you would never know where you will end up being when you search for "france". By giving search engine the liberty to direct me to a site I lose the abili…

Yes hash-n-slash is bad for domain names, that's what I meant: it is a good poison, it will accelerate it's death.

Re: Show HN: Use any text as a domain name

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Post by TheZenPsycho » Thu, Jan 02, 2014, 8:21 AM UTC

TylerE wrote: post #96

TheZenPsycho wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What on earth do you think Investment Bankers do? build playgrounds for the local children? Creating nothing useful is in the definition of "Investment Banker".

Umm, yes actually? Where do you think the playground equipment manufacturer got their initial capital?

I think you are confusing "investing in" with "producing". They are in fact different activities.

Re: Show HN: Use any text as a domain name

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Post by akurtzhs » Thu, Jan 02, 2014, 9:04 AM UTC

MichaelGG wrote: post #97

akurtzhs wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google Plus has the same deal now. Search for +Pepsi on Google and it takes you to Pepsi's Google Plus page. I'm certainly glad they stopped treating + as a search operator so we could get that feature in return.

Any more info? I opened a private tab, went to Google.com, searched on +Pepsi and the results look like what I'd find for Pepsi.

Really? Searching for Pepsi gives me www.pepsico.com, www.pepsi.com and the Pepsi wikipedia page as the top three results, while +Pepsi gives me Google Plus pages for Pepsi as the top three results.

The name for this is Direct Connect, and they announced it in 2011. http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2011/11/google-pages-connect-...

Re: Show HN: Use any text as a domain name

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Post by stock_toaster » Thu, Jan 02, 2014, 10:15 AM UTC

rot13 domain names are the future? Humorously, tbbtyr.com is already taken.

I wonder about memfrob based domain names.

Re: Show HN: Use any text as a domain name

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Post by VMG » Thu, Jan 02, 2014, 10:37 AM UTC

jessedhillon wrote: post #61

jawns wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This might at first sound like a xenophobic, anglocentric position, but it actually makes quite a bit of sense. There are a number of instances in which it is advantageous / critical to adopt a lingua franca -- that is, a single language that everyone in the world agrees to use for a particular purpose. In the case of domain names, Patrick is right: If we allow characters that appear to be one thing but are actually…

Couldn't this also be mitigated by making all domains mandatorily delegated from a national ccTLD? Eliminate/redirect apple.com to apple.com.us, then make sure it conforms to the rules for US domains (Latin character set only, etc) whereas apple.com.ru comes under the rules of the Russian registrar?

I prefer an unfractioned internet