Etoile: a GNUStep-based Linux GUI written in Objective-C

Blahah wrote: post #4

flym4n wrote: post #3

It says 'PDA' in the first paragraph. That makes it looks old

It is old. The page is copyright 2010, and the last news post was mid 2012.

But the last code edit was 11 hours ago. Web page is not so important to me.

http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/etoile/

Re: Etoile: a GNUStep-based Linux GUI written in Objective-C

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Post by rjzzleep » Wed, Jan 01, 2014, 9:22 PM UTC

yeah it's old. personally i'm wondering how complicated it would be to have a transparent wineish layer for running mac binaries on linux. the kernel modules are i guess the biggest problem, but last i remember they were fairly heavily based on their freebsd counterparts(well, at least many years ago)

i wish vmware workstation in linux was as good as the mac and windows counterparts ... then i could just run linux as my main os on my mba again

Re: Etoile: a GNUStep-based Linux GUI written in Objective-C

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Post by Sanddancer » Wed, Jan 01, 2014, 9:41 PM UTC

rjzzleep wrote: post #6

yeah it's old. personally i'm wondering how complicated it would be to have a transparent wineish layer for running mac binaries on linux. the kernel modules are i guess the biggest problem, but last i remember they were fairly heavily based on their freebsd counterparts(well, at least many years ago) i wish vmware workstation in linux was as good as the mac and windows counterparts ... then i could just run linux as…

The biggest problem would be the binary loader. OS X uses the Mach-O executable format, as opposed to the ELF format used in other unixes. There is a project to get Mach-O binaries to be usable under other unixes,, but it looks to be a ways off still -- http://darling.dolezel.info/en/Darling

Re: Etoile: a GNUStep-based Linux GUI written in Objective-C

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Post by wrhs » Wed, Jan 01, 2014, 9:54 PM UTC

The only reason Objective-C is not a relic of the past is that Apple are stuck with it. Some people mistake this relationship and think ObjC isn't a piece of shit. Poor fools.

Re: Etoile: a GNUStep-based Linux GUI written in Objective-C

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Post by adamnemecek » Wed, Jan 01, 2014, 9:55 PM UTC

Sanddancer wrote: post #7

rjzzleep wrote: post #6

yeah it's old. personally i'm wondering how complicated it would be to have a transparent wineish layer for running mac binaries on linux. the kernel modules are i guess the biggest problem, but last i remember they were fairly heavily based on their freebsd counterparts(well, at least many years ago) i wish vmware workstation in linux was as good as the mac and windows counterparts ... then i could just run linux as…

The biggest problem would be the binary loader. OS X uses the Mach-O executable format, as opposed to the ELF format used in other unixes. There is a project to get Mach-O binaries to be usable under other unixes,, but it looks to be a ways off still -- http://darling.dolezel.info/en/Darling

I really don't think that a binary loader would be that big of an issue. Unless I'm missing something, I would say that it would be one of the easier things. I'd guess that implementing all the frameworks would be the worst part.

Re: Etoile: a GNUStep-based Linux GUI written in Objective-C

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Post by james2vegas » Wed, Jan 01, 2014, 10:06 PM UTC

Doesn't appear to be Linux only at all.