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Colorado Stores Throw Open Their Doors to Pot Buyers

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Re: Colorado Stores Throw Open Their Doors to Pot Buyers

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Post by mschuster91 »

nathos wrote: post #87
mschuster91 wrote: post #83

So, now that pot is legalized, how will the police fill all those costly new jails with black people now? Criminalize them just for being black?

The black population is just 4.1% of Colorado, vs. the national average of 13.1%

I'm non-US so I dont have any idea where to obtain detailed statistics - but does anyone have data about how many blacks in Colorado are in state/fed jail for pot compared to the whole US?

And as a side question: do private jails exist in Colorado, or is the jail system in state hands?

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Post by goggles99 »

It will be very interesting to see the numbers in the next 5 years. Numbers of those who smoke pot vs who don't. Lets see how successful financially each group are. How much they contribute to society. It will also be interesting to see which group goes further in school or their career. Which group turns out more long term "happy" people. Which group breaks more laws ETC.

I already know the answers to all of these questions, but it will interesting to see it become a provable, statistical reality.

Re: Colorado Stores Throw Open Their Doors to Pot Buyers

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Post by matsur »

MWil wrote: post #74
borski wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Check out http://tealet.com

Based on the above comment I was expecting like $20/lb tea...not $275/lb. I just checked and I got a box of Bigelow from Food Lion (don't judge). Based on the net weight on the box, it's a little under $35/lb granted it is a small box so buying in bulk would definitely bring that down. So I can't imagine what $6/lb tea would taste like but I'm not sure I can justify $275/lb either. This is my cheap-ass tea by the way…

http://uptontea.com is somewhere in between and has not disappointed the few times I've ordered from them.

Re: Colorado Stores Throw Open Their Doors to Pot Buyers

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Post by xacaxulu »

Colorado, unlike a large number of US states, seems to take crazy things like simple economics and overwhelmingly positive scientific research into account when drafting laws. Here in the south we prefer to use 1950's mores, Jim Crow era law enforcement priorities and 3000 year old Judean religious texts when writing our laws. Bravo Colorado!

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Post by VikingIV »

MWil wrote: post #74
borski wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Check out http://tealet.com

Based on the above comment I was expecting like $20/lb tea...not $275/lb. I just checked and I got a box of Bigelow from Food Lion (don't judge). Based on the net weight on the box, it's a little under $35/lb granted it is a small box so buying in bulk would definitely bring that down. So I can't imagine what $6/lb tea would taste like but I'm not sure I can justify $275/lb either. This is my cheap-ass tea by the way…

http://www.luhsetea.com

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Post by ItendToDisagree »

goggles99 wrote: post #92

It will be very interesting to see the numbers in the next 5 years. Numbers of those who smoke pot vs who don't. Lets see how successful financially each group are. How much they contribute to society. It will also be interesting to see which group goes further in school or their career. Which group turns out more long term "happy" people. Which group breaks more laws ETC. I already know the answers to all of these q…

What are the answers? Is there a back of the book? Give up the goods!

This (OP) is one of the funniest HN submissions I've ever seen for comments. What does this have to do with HN?

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Post by rgbrgb »

goggles99 wrote: post #92

It will be very interesting to see the numbers in the next 5 years. Numbers of those who smoke pot vs who don't. Lets see how successful financially each group are. How much they contribute to society. It will also be interesting to see which group goes further in school or their career. Which group turns out more long term "happy" people. Which group breaks more laws ETC. I already know the answers to all of these q…

It's cool that you know before you've seen the numbers. Perhaps you could share the answer for us non-prophets. Also, what other wisdom can you impart?

Re: Colorado Stores Throw Open Their Doors to Pot Buyers

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Post by seanalltogether »

jdkuepper wrote: post #33
ck2 wrote: post #27

I'm curious what happens to the people who were surviving on the cash from selling it illegally. Some of them are poor slobs. Some of them are organized crime. Are they just going to try to sell it at a lower price since the police cannot tell where you got it from and might not even care anymore? Tax savings alone radically reduces the price.

The same profit margins exist for tobacco and alcohol, especially cities like NYC, but there are relatively few bootleggers in both markets. I think the legal risk significantly offsets the increase in price from taxation. But then again, cannabis differs from tobacco and alcohol in many ways in that an underground market has become highly developed. It will indeed be interesting to see...

There's also the consumer component. How many people would buy unbranded non-shrinkwrapped cigarettes off the back of a truck?

Re: Colorado Stores Throw Open Their Doors to Pot Buyers

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Post by yesiamyourdad »

mschuster91 wrote: post #91
nathos wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The black population is just 4.1% of Colorado, vs. the national average of 13.1%

I'm non-US so I dont have any idea where to obtain detailed statistics - but does anyone have data about how many blacks in Colorado are in state/fed jail for pot compared to the whole US? And as a side question: do private jails exist in Colorado, or is the jail system in state hands?

Federal jail would be a federal thing. There are federal prisons in CO, most notoriously the Supermax in Florence, but they don't put simple drug dealers in there. Federal arrests for pot in CO?

Most recent stats I found are 2010 http://www.ccjrc.org/pdf/2010_Colorado_Quick_Facts.pdf Latinos/as account for 17.1% of the population in Colorado, but 31% of the state prison population. • African-Americans make up 3.8% of Colorado’s population, but represent 19.4% of people in state prison. • Anglos are 74.5% of the state’s population, but only 46% of the prison population CO has private prisons too. I think that's nationwide these days, sadly.

Now bear in mind that pot has been de-facto legal in CO for about 4 years already. The Denver PD (largest city in the state) has been de-emphasizing pot enforcement for several years. There's been greater emphasis on other enforcement areas, like domestic violence and drunk driving.

Re: Colorado Stores Throw Open Their Doors to Pot Buyers

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Post by ItendToDisagree »

Multics wrote: post #84

More acceptance would presumably result in more clinical trials of cannabis. I'm aware of some small scale studies which have shown promise for diseases such as IBD (Crohn's/ulcerative colitis). How it stands presently some sections of society (global) suffer unnecessarily. I'm lead to believe that some substances in cannabis are neuroprotective; This contrasts to something like alcohol, which causes neurological dam…

More research seems like a really good side benefit if it happens.

Inhaling burning plant matter is still bad for you. There are alternate means of ingesting the compounds in Marijuana though.

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