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Re: Colorado Stores Throw Open Their Doors to Pot Buyers

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Post by Zelphyr » Wed, Jan 01, 2014, 7:28 PM UTC

jonknee wrote: post #37

plorkyeran wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not really an equivalent scenario. If all you want to do is get drunk, there's no reason to go to Napa to do it, so while the average level of intoxication is probably higher, it's much less so that it would be if it was the only place you could legally buy alcohol.

It's not just a few coffee shops, Colorado and Washington are big states. They will very much welcome tourism and the dollars that brings in. The cannabis cup was already in Denver and I don't recall hearing complaints about all the money it brought to Colorado.

Agreed. If CO (not sure about WA's law) didn't want the tourism they wouldn't have made provisions allowing non-residents to purchase.

Re: Colorado Stores Throw Open Their Doors to Pot Buyers

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Post by mynameishere » Wed, Jan 01, 2014, 7:30 PM UTC

According to this the price will initially go up:

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2013/12/30/high-prices-f...

...but since marijuana is literally a weed, why wouldn't the price eventually drop to something like that of tea? I mean, tea is harder to grow, process, and ship, and you can get it for 6 dollars a pound. Even the overpriced teavana stuff can go for as little as 40 dollars a pound.

Re: Colorado Stores Throw Open Their Doors to Pot Buyers

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Post by sesquipedantic » Wed, Jan 01, 2014, 7:31 PM UTC

>To skeptics, it marked a grand folly, one they said would lead to higher drug use among teenagers

They don't know what the proper incidence of usage is. Meanwhile, we all need to know why some people become addicts and others don't

Re: Colorado Stores Throw Open Their Doors to Pot Buyers

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Post by etanazir » Wed, Jan 01, 2014, 7:35 PM UTC

vyrotek wrote: post #3

"Skeptical federal authorities are also paying attention. Although marijuana remains illegal under federal law, the Justice Department has given a tentative approval for Colorado and Washington to move ahead with regulating marijuana. But it warned that federal officials could intervene if the state regulations failed to keep the drug away from children, drug cartels or federal property, and out of other states." I h…

We really need to keep drugs out of the hands of the cartels.

Re: Colorado Stores Throw Open Their Doors to Pot Buyers

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Post by mkhpalm » Wed, Jan 01, 2014, 7:38 PM UTC

vyrotek wrote: post #3

"Skeptical federal authorities are also paying attention. Although marijuana remains illegal under federal law, the Justice Department has given a tentative approval for Colorado and Washington to move ahead with regulating marijuana. But it warned that federal officials could intervene if the state regulations failed to keep the drug away from children, drug cartels or federal property, and out of other states." I h…

Truth is, every law is based on people who ruin it for everybody else. That is how marijuana got outlawed in the first place. People has this belief that we are somehow rewarded for passing thousands of new laws every year. The resulting authoritarian society is just the unintended consequence. Nobody actually picks authoritarianism on purpose.

Re: Colorado Stores Throw Open Their Doors to Pot Buyers

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Post by silencio » Wed, Jan 01, 2014, 7:38 PM UTC

philangist wrote: post #34

ernestipark wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I understand the sentiment, but you forgot to include the rest of the paragraph: >> She said that she suffered from seizures and fibromyalgia, and her husband from post-traumatic stress, but that the couple had not been able to get medical marijuana at home. “We’re thinking about moving here because of it,” she said. Maybe they're just making up excuses, but doesn't sound like these are a couple of 20 year olds just…

Not that there's nothing wrong with that either.

Agreed.

I have a MMJ card in CA because it helps with some nerve pain I have. Half the time I use it it's a tiny amount to get me through the next couple hours (placebo or not it works well especially for the trivial cost) and half the time it's to get so high at night that I stop caring about it and hopefully get at least a few hours of uninterrupted sleep in. The benefits of the latter are severely underrated when you deal with chronic pain.

Not to mention I have no idea why society has a double standard with casual marijuana use especially given the use of alcohol, tobacco, caffeine, prescription drug abuse, and more out there. I'm trying to drink less alcohol as part of my weight loss plan for my wedding and it really shocked me to realize that people around me easily kill a bottle of wine per person at a single dinner on top of drinking cocktails, beer and straight liquor... and that my restraining myself to 1-2 alcoholic drinks a week is crazy in comparison. Some of my friends persistently bother me for Adderall that I never give away because I barely have enough of for myself. Et cetera. Weed is pretty harmless in comparison I would think.

Re: Colorado Stores Throw Open Their Doors to Pot Buyers

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Post by theorique » Wed, Jan 01, 2014, 7:39 PM UTC

etanazir wrote: post #54

vyrotek wrote: post #3

"Skeptical federal authorities are also paying attention. Although marijuana remains illegal under federal law, the Justice Department has given a tentative approval for Colorado and Washington to move ahead with regulating marijuana. But it warned that federal officials could intervene if the state regulations failed to keep the drug away from children, drug cartels or federal property, and out of other states." I h…

We really need to keep drugs out of the hands of the cartels.

If a person or small group can grow it legally themselves, it's hard to imagine cartels cornering the market.

Moderately expensive, legal products like tea or (culinary) mushrooms are sold at markets without much fanfare.

Re: Colorado Stores Throw Open Their Doors to Pot Buyers

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Post by oinksoft » Wed, Jan 01, 2014, 7:43 PM UTC

mynameishere wrote: post #52

According to this the price will initially go up: http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2013/12/30/high-prices-f... ...but since marijuana is literally a weed, why wouldn't the price eventually drop to something like that of tea? I mean, tea is harder to grow, process, and ship, and you can get it for 6 dollars a pound. Even the overpriced teavana stuff can go for as little as 40 dollars a pound.

Is medical grade tea a thing? It takes a lot of skill and either great weather or a big investment in indoor growing equipment to grow a single medical plant. Comparing tea and cannabis prices doesn't make much sense.

Re: Colorado Stores Throw Open Their Doors to Pot Buyers

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Post by lotharbot » Wed, Jan 01, 2014, 7:44 PM UTC

mynameishere wrote: post #52

According to this the price will initially go up: http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2013/12/30/high-prices-f... ...but since marijuana is literally a weed, why wouldn't the price eventually drop to something like that of tea? I mean, tea is harder to grow, process, and ship, and you can get it for 6 dollars a pound. Even the overpriced teavana stuff can go for as little as 40 dollars a pound.

The "tea" you get for 6 dollars a pound in the US is, generally speaking, the crumbs and fragments leftover from making actually good tea. Wouldn't surprise me if you could also eventually get crumb-and-fragment grade pot for 6 bucks a pound.

There's still a market for legitimately high grade tea (not Teavana). I'm interested to see what sort of market develops, over time, for legitimately high-grade MJ here in Colorado.

Re: Colorado Stores Throw Open Their Doors to Pot Buyers

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Post by theorique » Wed, Jan 01, 2014, 7:50 PM UTC

So it looks like there may be chronic price increases, at least until some kind shop owners open up. Once the stores start spreading like weeds, prices should come down.