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The RIAA forced me to shut down a successful website/apps I built in high school

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Re: The RIAA forced me to shut down a successful website/apps I built in high school

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Post by perlpimp »

NathanKP wrote: post #82

First of all I'm sorry to hear that you have to shut down your app, but I'm confident that things are going to work out just fine for you. I actually had a very similar experience when I was 18 as well. I decided to make a book search engine that would aggregate reviews from different sources across the web and provide a high quality, clean interface to quickly see information about a book and links to buy it on Amaz…

Job is a job, business is a business. I hand it to you that you did this the way you did, perhaps you could've found a way to stay under the radar, grow the business and maybe find an investor that could stock most popular offerings and let you sell them yourself - ie putting your matches first. Gradually cutting amazon and others out of the loop. That is why they sent you sent cease and decease letters, becaue they do not care for people to be becoming their competitiors.

again very nice, I applaud.

Re: The RIAA forced me to shut down a successful website/apps I built in high school

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Post by perlpimp »

brohee wrote: post #15
adamnemecek wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yet somehow Google still operates. But to respond to OP, IANAL but I think that you might have folded too easily. But it's understandable that you probably want to avoid a lawsuit at any cost. Also, you might want to check this out http://www.chillingeffects.org/dmca512/faq.cgi#QID862 and google around for 'wrongful dmca takedowns'.

Google actively removes links to infringing content once notified. E.g. look at the bottom of https://www.google.com/search?q=rihanna+diamond+mp3

There should be Anon Legal spamming these services with tons of links to real sites supported by RIAA as to make searching for any legal music useless through google. Because google complies with RIAA, an effort should be made to make for google to have it be too expensive to verify said claims and/or RIAA suffer from same tactics they employ.

Re: The RIAA forced me to shut down a successful website/apps I built in high school

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Post by dpe82 »

Natsu wrote: post #79
mjn wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fwiw, it's also possible for any third party to check if you've complied with that particular formality, since the U.S. Copyright Office provides a directory of all companies that have registered a DMCA agent: http://www.copyright.gov/onlinesp/list/a_agents.html

One thing that really stands out is how many people don't appear to comply with that. The big sites seem to, but not too many others.

Which is bad, because without registering an agent, you have NO safe harbor protection.

Re: The RIAA forced me to shut down a successful website/apps I built in high school

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Post by auctiontheory »

logfromblammo wrote: post #23
ds9 wrote: post #10

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It's not at all clear that he's violating any laws. There is no infringement in providing access in a good-faith belief that the content is legit. And it's a fair assumption that the people actually publishing the music files on their websites wouldn't be doing so without authorization from the rights holders. Further, downloading in general (as opposed to publishing) is expressly legal in some countries (e.g., repor…

He has to capitulate because he's 18, ignorant of the relevant laws, and likely has no money to be thrown away on litigation. He definitely has shallower pockets than the RIAA. In the civil arena in the U.S., that's an automatic loss. Since operating in good faith is apparently untenable, there is no particular reason for anyone to operate in good faith with respect to the RIAA. Thus copyright piracy proliferates. I'…

The only way to win is not to play.

How about a nice game of chess?

Re: The RIAA forced me to shut down a successful website/apps I built in high school

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Post by tptacek »

MichaelGG wrote: post #118
tptacek wrote: post #93

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It is not obligated to do that.

So what is "becomes aware of a link"? How is that different than the copyright holder sending a notice? Because without the copyright holder (and even courts) it's not very clear.

ANYBODY could make them aware, not just the rightsholder. That's what happened with Mega: users complained about the quality of Dexter videos.

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Post by mathrawka »

lcasela wrote: post #22
mathrawka wrote: post #14

And 17 years ago an indie emo record label in NY (that should be enough to identify them/him) forced me to shut down a website I built. That was when I left emo and went to mathrock.

You should get into midwest emo.

I was ;) The band was trying to go national, which is why they signed up on a NY label.

Re: The RIAA forced me to shut down a successful website/apps I built in high school

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Post by CassieTFC »

The music industry as we know it is dead. As someone with a history in the industry, it is time to discover and embrace the new music model...whatever that may be. And there are many things it might be. Streaming, yes. The end of downloads? I don't think so but maybe. The ability for deserving artists without the backing of the major-label machine to have a measurable amount of success. Stay tuned ;)
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