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The RIAA forced me to shut down a successful website/apps I built in high school

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Re: The RIAA forced me to shut down a successful website/apps I built in high school

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IANAL. First of all a cease and desist doesn't require you to do anything. It's merely a threat. That said it seems pretty clear that you're violating copyright laws. The DMCA only applies to user generated content (UGC). You're not letting users input their own links to 3rd party content, you're finding the links yourself. It doesn't matter where you get them from. Not only that but you're not linking to this conten…

I wonder how can he be violating any law with respect to distribution of copyrighted content when he is not distributing anything. He is just pointing to other sources doing the actual distribution (which may be legal). He is just providing links, although with a nice interface.

Don't become this guy: http://www.zdnet.com/student-richard-odwyer-spared-us-extrad...

Sadly, the Internet isn't our playground anymore. You have to watch what you do even if it's just curating links to things you can download for free.

Re: The RIAA forced me to shut down a successful website/apps I built in high school

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Since I'm lucky enough to be on the front page of HN (thanks a lot!) I'd just like to shamelessly self promote and say 1) I'm looking for an internship this summer at a startup- please let me know if any of you have open positions! Please email me at lukezli[at]yahoo.com. 2) Check out my new project, catchyurl.co, a url shortener that creates memorable shortened urls like catchyurl.co/EskimoHill

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Re: The RIAA forced me to shut down a successful website/apps I built in high school

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I wonder how can he be violating any law with respect to distribution of copyrighted content when he is not distributing anything. He is just pointing to other sources doing the actual distribution (which may be legal). He is just providing links, although with a nice interface.

The same way ThePirateBay is guilty of infringement when all the host is "links". They host "nothing" and yet are the scourge of the interwebs.

The brilliant fact of magnet links is even when TPB goes down, you can ask Google for a cache of a TPB page. The cache of the page still has functional magnet links.

Re: The RIAA forced me to shut down a successful website/apps I built in high school

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Linking can be considered "dissemination" thanks to the DMCA, see http://www.chillingeffects.org/linking/faq.cgi#QID152

Yet somehow Google still operates. But to respond to OP, IANAL but I think that you might have folded too easily. But it's understandable that you probably want to avoid a lawsuit at any cost. Also, you might want to check this out http://www.chillingeffects.org/dmca512/faq.cgi#QID862 and google around for 'wrongful dmca takedowns'.

Google actively removes links to infringing content once notified.

E.g. look at the bottom of https://www.google.com/search?q=rihanna+diamond+mp3

Re: The RIAA forced me to shut down a successful website/apps I built in high school

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post #10

IANAL. First of all a cease and desist doesn't require you to do anything. It's merely a threat. That said it seems pretty clear that you're violating copyright laws. The DMCA only applies to user generated content (UGC). You're not letting users input their own links to 3rd party content, you're finding the links yourself. It doesn't matter where you get them from. Not only that but you're not linking to this conten…

It's not at all clear that he's violating any laws. There is no infringement in providing access in a good-faith belief that the content is legit. And it's a fair assumption that the people actually publishing the music files on their websites wouldn't be doing so without authorization from the rights holders. Further, downloading in general (as opposed to publishing) is expressly legal in some countries (e.g., repor…

"There is no infringement in providing access in a good-faith belief that the content is legit."

I don't believe that is true. Content distribution is a complicated affair. Redistribution of content is not as easy as saying "well if site xyz has the right to distribute it, so do I"

Re: The RIAA forced me to shut down a successful website/apps I built in high school

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post #12

Since I'm lucky enough to be on the front page of HN (thanks a lot!) I'd just like to shamelessly self promote and say 1) I'm looking for an internship this summer at a startup- please let me know if any of you have open positions! Please email me at lukezli[at]yahoo.com. 2) Check out my new project, catchyurl.co, a url shortener that creates memorable shortened urls like catchyurl.co/EskimoHill Let me know if you ha…

catchyurl.co/EskimoHill returns a 404. I would suggest making your example link back to your page.

But awesome website and good luck!

Re: The RIAA forced me to shut down a successful website/apps I built in high school

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post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yet somehow Google still operates. But to respond to OP, IANAL but I think that you might have folded too easily. But it's understandable that you probably want to avoid a lawsuit at any cost. Also, you might want to check this out http://www.chillingeffects.org/dmca512/faq.cgi#QID862 and google around for 'wrongful dmca takedowns'.

Google actively removes links to infringing content once notified. E.g. look at the bottom of https://www.google.com/search?q=rihanna+diamond+mp3

I'm aware of that. That still implies that at some point Google linked to illegal material yet when requested, they removed it. Presumably HypedMusic could have had a similar deal.

Re: The RIAA forced me to shut down a successful website/apps I built in high school

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder how can he be violating any law with respect to distribution of copyrighted content when he is not distributing anything. He is just pointing to other sources doing the actual distribution (which may be legal). He is just providing links, although with a nice interface.

The same way ThePirateBay is guilty of infringement when all the host is "links". They host "nothing" and yet are the scourge of the interwebs.

Repeating a lie doesn't make it any more true.
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