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Steam Removes Game 'Order Of War: Challenge' From User Libraries

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Re: Steam Removes Game 'Order Of War: Challenge' From User Libraries

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Post by shangaslammi »

The article claims incorrectly that the game had 18 single-player missions. The FAQ linked from the article is for the game "Order of War". "Order of War: Challenge" is a completely separate, multi-player-only game that had its servers shut down and was removed from Steam. The original "Order of War" is still available (http://store.steampowered.com/app/34600/).

In addition, the "Challenge" add-on was given free to those who bought the original game.

This is a complete non-issue as far as Steam is concerned (the complaint about publishers shutting down multi-player servers is certainly valid). There is nothing that you could do with the game even if you still had it in your Steam library.

Re: Steam Removes Game 'Order Of War: Challenge' From User Libraries

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Post by malka »

interstitial wrote: post #52
joosters wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In theory, if the reseller adopts a 'that will never happen' attitude, then they should be happy to commit to giving you a full refund if the developer does go out of business. After all, if they think it won't happen, what have they got to fear about it? In practice, good luck getting any guarantee, promise or actual refund!

One does not usually go out of business with enough cash reserves to refund your customers. That being said, they should offer some sort of self-hosted open-source promise: if we go out of business, we will release the code for our former customers to maintain.

I think the grandfather comment implied that the reseller (not the bankrupted editor) should refund the client ;)

Re: Steam Removes Game 'Order Of War: Challenge' From User Libraries

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Post by archangel_one »

DanBC wrote: post #18
fletchowns wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The main appeal of the game was apparently the multi-player, which isn't going to be that great if nobody bought the thing. You can't expect a refund for this type of purchase from either Steam or the studio that developed it, that is ridiculous. They shouldn't have removed it from people's libraries though, and the developer should have released one last patch that disabled the DRM and let you run your own server.

Why can't people expect a refund? Why is that a ridiculous expectation?

Maybe because the people who bought it early on have already played it and derived significant value from it? It doesn't seem right to me that they get all their money back when presumably most of them weren't playing it any more.

I don't agree with the kind of always-on DRM that's led to this, but I don't think full refunds for everyone is a reasonable solution either.

Re: Steam Removes Game 'Order Of War: Challenge' From User Libraries

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Post by blub »

dm2 wrote: post #40

I recently purchased a game from Steam (Max Payne 3) and after I download the full 30 gig game it tells me "cannot connect to key server". After several emails with their support they inform me that Steam doesn't have enough CD keys, yet they continue selling the game on their website. It has been about a week now and I still cannot even play this game. Plus, not only does that require a Steam account but you also ha…

If you want to enjoy PC gaming buy from gog.com, I think that's the only guarantee that it won't have some crap DRM. If you want to play recent titles you're out of luck...

Re: Steam Removes Game 'Order Of War: Challenge' From User Libraries

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Post by StavrosK »

qwerta wrote: post #42

We had similar problem: InstallShield is very expensive software. The company which sells it was renamed, and they changed domain name together with license activation server... So we could no longer activate software we bought. Suggested solution was to buy new version. Pretty bad since we could not make new build without this software. Luckily for us we had everything virtualized already (not so common a few years…

Hah, nice suggested solution there. I've been wondering why NSIS isn't more popular, it was fantastic when I was using it, very light, fast and extensible.

Re: Steam Removes Game 'Order Of War: Challenge' From User Libraries

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Post by shangaslammi »

tomphoolery wrote: post #6

No refunds? Really?!? The guy who sold me my bong has a better fucking return policy than that.

While "Order of War: Challenge" might have been sold separately at some point (I'm not sure), I think that most players (like me) were those who bought the original "Order of War" and got "Order of War: Challenge" as a free add-on.

Re: Steam Removes Game 'Order Of War: Challenge' From User Libraries

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Post by aerique »

shangaslammi wrote: post #61

The article claims incorrectly that the game had 18 single-player missions. The FAQ linked from the article is for the game "Order of War". "Order of War: Challenge" is a completely separate, multi-player-only game that had its servers shut down and was removed from Steam. The original "Order of War" is still available ( http://store.steampowered.com/app/34600/ ). In addition, the "Challenge" add-on was given free to…

I don't know this game, but if for example Blizzard would shut down the World of Warcraft servers you could still play it on private servers. Same for a lot of other MMOs that do not have their official server anymore like Star Wars Galaxies and Earth & Beyond. People can still play these on private and / or emulated servers.

Re: Steam Removes Game 'Order Of War: Challenge' From User Libraries

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Post by karlmdavis »

blub wrote: post #64
dm2 wrote: post #40

I recently purchased a game from Steam (Max Payne 3) and after I download the full 30 gig game it tells me "cannot connect to key server". After several emails with their support they inform me that Steam doesn't have enough CD keys, yet they continue selling the game on their website. It has been about a week now and I still cannot even play this game. Plus, not only does that require a Steam account but you also ha…

If you want to enjoy PC gaming buy from gog.com, I think that's the only guarantee that it won't have some crap DRM. If you want to play recent titles you're out of luck...

Also Humble Bundle.

Re: Steam Removes Game 'Order Of War: Challenge' From User Libraries

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Post by hatchoo »

dm2 wrote: post #40

I recently purchased a game from Steam (Max Payne 3) and after I download the full 30 gig game it tells me "cannot connect to key server". After several emails with their support they inform me that Steam doesn't have enough CD keys, yet they continue selling the game on their website. It has been about a week now and I still cannot even play this game. Plus, not only does that require a Steam account but you also ha…

Bought Far Cry 3 and it does the same. When you launch the game on Steam it installs UPlay which requires you to have a UPlay account as well. With an account you can launch the game from Uplay.

Re: Steam Removes Game 'Order Of War: Challenge' From User Libraries

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Post by [deleted] »

aerique wrote: post #67
shangaslammi wrote: post #61

The article claims incorrectly that the game had 18 single-player missions. The FAQ linked from the article is for the game "Order of War". "Order of War: Challenge" is a completely separate, multi-player-only game that had its servers shut down and was removed from Steam. The original "Order of War" is still available ( http://store.steampowered.com/app/34600/ ). In addition, the "Challenge" add-on was given free to…

I don't know this game, but if for example Blizzard would shut down the World of Warcraft servers you could still play it on private servers. Same for a lot of other MMOs that do not have their official server anymore like Star Wars Galaxies and Earth & Beyond. People can still play these on private and / or emulated servers.

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