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I Transcribed Glenn Greenwald's 30C3 Keynote

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Reading this (and others) makes me conclude that we the people (or any country, but especially here in the US) are truly and royally fucked. For every brave person who stands up there are a hundred thousand who refuse to the see the sun rises in the east and continues to believe what they are being told, that it rises in the west.

Re: I Transcribed Glenn Greenwald's 30C3 Keynote

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Reading this (and others) makes me conclude that we the people (or any country, but especially here in the US) are truly and royally fucked. For every brave person who stands up there are a hundred thousand who refuse to the see the sun rises in the east and continues to believe what they are being told, that it rises in the west.

We are only if people give up. Progress is a long road, at times. Not to directly compare the two, but look at the history of the civil rights movement in the US, from slavery, to Lincoln, to the 60ies and to the present day. That has been a fight carried out over generations, but things have gotten better.

Re: I Transcribed Glenn Greenwald's 30C3 Keynote

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Reading this (and others) makes me conclude that we the people (or any country, but especially here in the US) are truly and royally fucked. For every brave person who stands up there are a hundred thousand who refuse to the see the sun rises in the east and continues to believe what they are being told, that it rises in the west.

Technology will be the solution, not politics. Cryptography is the only way out of this hell.

Re: I Transcribed Glenn Greenwald's 30C3 Keynote

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Reading this (and others) makes me conclude that we the people (or any country, but especially here in the US) are truly and royally fucked. For every brave person who stands up there are a hundred thousand who refuse to the see the sun rises in the east and continues to believe what they are being told, that it rises in the west.

Technology will be the solution, not politics. Cryptography is the only way out of this hell.

Crypto to what degree? Are your medical records safe? Correspondence with other secure on the other side? Credit card history? If you drive, your license plate being scanned to track location? Do you have a cell phone? Do you send postal mail (envelopes are now scanned).

Et cetera.

Crypto is great, but if the population as a whole doesn't care then it's more an exercise in keeping your journal entries secret (possibly).

We need to foment public anger over this, and have a clear course of action to channel that anger.

Re: I Transcribed Glenn Greenwald's 30C3 Keynote

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Reading this (and others) makes me conclude that we the people (or any country, but especially here in the US) are truly and royally fucked. For every brave person who stands up there are a hundred thousand who refuse to the see the sun rises in the east and continues to believe what they are being told, that it rises in the west.

Technology will be the solution, not politics. Cryptography is the only way out of this hell.

Crypto is a tool, not a solution.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Technology will be the solution, not politics. Cryptography is the only way out of this hell.

Crypto is a tool, not a solution.

"How are we going to push this nail into this board?"

"We can use a hammer."

"A hammer is a tool, not a solution."

Re: I Transcribed Glenn Greenwald's 30C3 Keynote

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Reading this (and others) makes me conclude that we the people (or any country, but especially here in the US) are truly and royally fucked. For every brave person who stands up there are a hundred thousand who refuse to the see the sun rises in the east and continues to believe what they are being told, that it rises in the west.

Technology will be the solution, not politics. Cryptography is the only way out of this hell.

Cryptography is one big part of it, but I think all of counter-economics is the real hope.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counter-economics

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Reading this (and others) makes me conclude that we the people (or any country, but especially here in the US) are truly and royally fucked. For every brave person who stands up there are a hundred thousand who refuse to the see the sun rises in the east and continues to believe what they are being told, that it rises in the west.

Technology will be the solution, not politics. Cryptography is the only way out of this hell.

This is primarily a political problem. Talk to people who really understand the capabilities of state-level adversaries--applied cryptographers in particular--and you'll invariably get "well... what can you do?" Entities like the NSA are too powerful for you as an individual to defend against.

Crypto will help, and it will put a dent in dragnet surveillance, but it is dangerous to think we can "just put SSL in everything" and be done with it.

Re: I Transcribed Glenn Greenwald's 30C3 Keynote

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Greenwald's speech was great, but so far the most interesting one to me has been Jacob Appelbaum's speech where he gives a lot more technical details (including new information) about how the NSA is hacking systems and how far they are willing to go, like wanting to create a "Great Firewall of Earth" or even radiating people with up to 1KW in order to get what's in their computer, which just proves how out of control…

Why isn't there a video of this talk on media.ccc.de?

How was part 1 by Claudio Gaurnieri (@botherder) and Morgan Marquis-Boire (@headhntr)?

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