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Google’s Chromebooks Have Hit Their Stride

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Re: Google’s Chromebooks Have Hit Their Stride

#92

Bought Chromebooks (and Chromecasts) for all my tech-illiterate family members in order to cut down on having to provide tech support, and it's been amazing. No issues so far, and everything just works.

I do nearly all my work on remote machines, writing code in Vim over SSH. Could chromeOS work for someone like me? Is there a decent terminal app for chromeOS? I don't want a PuTTY-like utility that allows me to open sessions; I'm looking for a tabbed terminal that allows me to run basic linux commands locally and ssh into remote machines...

There is, in fact, a terminal app. It's not very advanced though (i.e. doesn't support tabs), but I use tmux and it solves most of the issues (tmux has its own version of "tabs" and even lets you split your window horizontally/vertically)

Re: Google’s Chromebooks Have Hit Their Stride

#93

I got a Chromebook (XE500C21) as a gift and I didn't think it'd see much use. I set up crouton on it and I'm using it for browsing, IRC and some (very light) programming. I've come to use it far more than I thought I would. My primary reasons for reaching for it rather than a "real" laptop (got a couple of Thinkpads around as well) is that it's got great battery life and that it's so cheap that I don't care if it get…

It's been beaten, stepped on, splashed on. Stepped on by a baby? I'd be surprised if it could survive being stepped on by an adult. Especially the screen.

Re: Google’s Chromebooks Have Hit Their Stride

#94

Over the last few days, I was looking at building an IDE as a Chrome Packaged App, but went with node-webkit due to the file I/O limitations of Chrome. However, for many apps, the combination of ease of building a Chrome Packaged App and the automatic cross-platform capabilities (anything that runs Chrome) will further strengthen the Chromebook market. The one thing I think is missing is more drool-worthy mid-priced…

Could you say more about file I/O?

Re: Google’s Chromebooks Have Hit Their Stride

#95

Bought Chromebooks (and Chromecasts) for all my tech-illiterate family members in order to cut down on having to provide tech support, and it's been amazing. No issues so far, and everything just works.

I do nearly all my work on remote machines, writing code in Vim over SSH. Could chromeOS work for someone like me? Is there a decent terminal app for chromeOS? I don't want a PuTTY-like utility that allows me to open sessions; I'm looking for a tabbed terminal that allows me to run basic linux commands locally and ssh into remote machines...

I use a system called Crouton[1] that installs a full Linux (Ubuntu or Debian currently) in a chroot (so that it still uses the Chromebook's kernel and x11 config). It works extremely well for my development needs. I do Python, JavaScript, Ruby, Python, and Clojure. The only real downside is that my particular Chromebook, an Acer C7 with a new SSD and 16GB of RAM, is still only a dual core Celeron. That makes some things awkward (starting the JVM for leiningen when I do Clojure/ClojureScript takes more seconds (around 20) than I'd like)). Using a jedi integration (Python code introspection, refactoring, execution) for Vim is also really slow when first loading Python into a buffer (the solution, never leave my vim, is acceptable to me). To be fair, neither of these things were exactly instant even on my former i7-based Retina Macbook Pro.

Long story short, I can alt+ctrl+shift+f2 and get to an Ubuntu install where I have XFCE installed and access to a real xterm + tmux + Skype. It has all of my dev tools (c compiler, python, jvm) and can even do Android development. I can alt+ctrl+shift+f2 and go back to normal Chromebook stuff. I use Chrome plus a special plugin in ChromeOS that lets ChromeOS and my Crouton/Ubuntu install share a clipboard. Combined with Chrome's normal syncing, I sometimes forget which environment I'm in when browsing the web.

If you can follow some instructions and want a cheap dev laptop that is no fuss for the basics, I'd recommend a similar setup. These days, I'd probably go for the 14" HP, although I haven't checked to make sure I could upgrade the HDD and RAM to acceptable specs.

[1] - https://github.com/dnschneid/crouton

Re: Google’s Chromebooks Have Hit Their Stride

#96
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sure it is but how will it run after 6 months of use by a non-technical user. The 'Windows half-life' kicks in and most Windows PC's I've ever seen have been almost unusable after a year or so of such usage.

Until four months ago I was running windows 8 on my 5 years old laptop with no problem. I upgraded it with 8.1 just because I wanted to try it and still I hadn't seen the first problem, so in my experience that "windows half-life" isn't more than a myth.

Only if you're willing to keep your computer well-maintained. Most users don't. The Registry is an outdated piece of junk, but thankfully Microsoft has made it less intrusive in Windows 7, and is making moves away from it with 8/8.1. It gets so clogged and filthy over time – like a vacuum cleaner's air filter - that loading application defaults takes ages. This is, however, less of a problem on newer operating systems.

Re: Google’s Chromebooks Have Hit Their Stride

#97
post #91

Is there still a chromebook with 3G or even LTE access built in? With a (worldwide) google data plan? I would buy one in a heartbeat if that were the case.

Yes, there is. I have a Samsung Chromebook with 3G from Verizon built-in. I am very impressed with this laptop and battery life. The next model will have the LTE capability.

Re: Google’s Chromebooks Have Hit Their Stride

#98
post #15

When Chrome OS was first announced, I wanted to try it out. Unfortunately every time I try, I can't get it to run in VirtualBox. The hexxeh builds are old (April 2013) and there's no ISO I can download. Has anyone else had success in running a recent, stable build in VirtualBox?

The easiest way to try the ChromeOS UI on another platform is currently on Windows 8, where if your regular Chrome build is set as the default browser it will run the ChromeOS desktop environment/window manager in Metro mode (you have to close all the desktop windows for this to work).

Likely way more work than you're interested in but on Linux:

Follow most of the steps on this page: https://code.google.com/p/chromium/wiki/LinuxBuildInstructio... then:

  export GYP_DEFINES=chromeos=1
  gclient runhooks
  ninja -C out/Release chrome   # May take a while!
  ./out/Release/chrome
... this produces a build of Chrome very similar to the one run in ChromeOS (we use it for 99% of UI development & testing on our Linux workstations). You can run this and get a feel for the desktop environment, window manager, etc. Similar steps will work on Windows but with use_aura=1 defined in GYP_DEFINES, and chrome run with --open-ash on the command line.

Re: Google’s Chromebooks Have Hit Their Stride

#99
Chromebooks are very intriguing to me. Currently I use a MacBook Air and iPad Air for computing (C#, Java, ObjC programming, Photoshop, and basic office stuff such as word and Excel). I primarily run Win7 due to the VPN client my company uses only working with Windows. But if that changes. I may look elsewhere.

Re: Google’s Chromebooks Have Hit Their Stride

#100

Bought Chromebooks (and Chromecasts) for all my tech-illiterate family members in order to cut down on having to provide tech support, and it's been amazing. No issues so far, and everything just works.

I do nearly all my work on remote machines, writing code in Vim over SSH. Could chromeOS work for someone like me? Is there a decent terminal app for chromeOS? I don't want a PuTTY-like utility that allows me to open sessions; I'm looking for a tabbed terminal that allows me to run basic linux commands locally and ssh into remote machines...

There is a Secure Shell app (Chrome app) that you can configure colors and such very much like a native terminal clientm
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