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The Valley Is Fucked

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Re: The Valley Is Fucked

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This is really interesting, especially from my perspective. I'm a senior in High School, planning on traveling after graduation. These tech hubs are clear attractions to young technologists, but posts like this cause me to reconsider.

Now, not knowing much about The Valley's history (other than the obvious), I'm wondering if these problems you speak of were caused by an influx of techies who feel entitled in the area. The glory of movies like "The Social Network" encourage ambitious young hackers like myself to move westward because of Hollywood-crafted fantasies, rather than necessity or convenience. Consequently, meritocracy is diluted.

Thoughts? These ideas are more from my intuition than anywhere else; I've lived in Boston from birth.

Re: The Valley Is Fucked

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This will sound patronizing if you've actually lived here but... you do know that San Francisco is not "the valley", right?

The "valley" is Santa Clara Valley, which is a full 45 miles away and a very diverse set of neighborhoods.

"There are no slums. There are no marginal areas." I've lived in "the valley" my whole damn life. My family has ties going back to the gold rush days. I have no idea where it is that you lived, as it sure as hell doesn't resemble anything I recognize.

I'm sorry you had such a shitty experience.

Re: The Valley Is Fucked

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To other HNers. I'm looking to move to a different country for good. I'm thinking Germany. It's beautiful. Music, art, amazing women, startups, history, Europe.

Where should I go? I have all the money in the world and I'm looking to settle elsewhere besides North America.

Suggestions?

OP: I like the way you rant.

Re: The Valley Is Fucked

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This is really interesting, especially from my perspective. I'm a senior in High School, planning on traveling after graduation. These tech hubs are clear attractions to young technologists, but posts like this cause me to reconsider. Now, not knowing much about The Valley's history (other than the obvious), I'm wondering if these problems you speak of were caused by an influx of techies who feel entitled in the area…

Pay a visit to the city, go to some of the tech meetups - get a feel for the culture before committing to it.

I don't think I personally would prefer to live in SF, in large part due to the crazy expense, but you should try seeing how you personally feel about the area for yourself.

Re: The Valley Is Fucked

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post #5

To other HNers. I'm looking to move to a different country for good. I'm thinking Germany. It's beautiful. Music, art, amazing women, startups, history, Europe. Where should I go? I have all the money in the world and I'm looking to settle elsewhere besides North America. Suggestions? OP: I like the way you rant.

As an European I can't say how well it compares to the US but The Netherlands (Amsterdam in particular) are an amazing place to move to.

I've left Italy a few months ago and moved to Amsterdam (studying and working), it's an amazing place, a massive change of settings for me. There are lots of startups, companies and opportunities for tech-minded people. Obviously, I repeat, my comparison is with Italy which, to be honest, is one of the worst places you'd want to found a startup in Europe.

Re: The Valley Is Fucked

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post #5

To other HNers. I'm looking to move to a different country for good. I'm thinking Germany. It's beautiful. Music, art, amazing women, startups, history, Europe. Where should I go? I have all the money in the world and I'm looking to settle elsewhere besides North America. Suggestions? OP: I like the way you rant.

Germany is a good destination in Europe because it's fairly inexpensive (unification ftw). Very few startups outside of a small area of Berlin, however.

Just commenting about Germany because you mentioned it. There are probably lots of other destinations with good potential. Ultimately they are all only as good as you make it.

Re: The Valley Is Fucked

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"SF has no place for you to fall. (Really, the same can be said of America if you don't have a family support network.) "

While I agree with you that the safety net in the USA need to be completely reworked, what country gives poor non citizens a chance to "make it" that you feel is acceptable?

Re: The Valley Is Fucked

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This is really interesting, especially from my perspective. I'm a senior in High School, planning on traveling after graduation. These tech hubs are clear attractions to young technologists, but posts like this cause me to reconsider. Now, not knowing much about The Valley's history (other than the obvious), I'm wondering if these problems you speak of were caused by an influx of techies who feel entitled in the area…

>Thoughts?

Travel around and enjoy yourself if you have the means. Don't settle down somewhere without having spent a decent amount of time there. Live and work where you love, not where you feel like you should be. Basically follow that boring advice that parents have been giving children forever now.

>Consequently, meritocracy is diluted

Meritocracy is a clever facade that is used to blind "smart people" to the real ways of the world. Buy into it at your peril.

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