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Ask PG: Does smoking marijuana affect the ability to hack and run a startup?

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Re: Ask PG: Does smoking marijuana affect the ability to hack and run a startup?

#41

i cannot get anything done after smoking except for couching, lazy remote operation, eating and sleeping. if i have anything to get done (which is 99% of the time), i don't smoke. my buddy, however, smokes whenever he's awake and is the most productive/brilliant engineer i've ever met, i don't get it.

You may want to try a couple of varieties of pure Sativa. You may be one of those people that is sensitive to the CBDs in weed. Higher concentrations can make you sleepy.

Re: Ask PG: Does smoking marijuana affect the ability to hack and run a startup?

#42
post #27

Smoke weed if you like but don't kid yourself it's making you better at your work, ezpecially if you do it regularly. If you need stress relief, get good rest and exercise. I've seen several promising friends fizzle and burn out because they started needing to have a smoke for breakfast. Just keep it to the occasional party and try to phase it out completely as you continue the process of growing up.

"The only pot smokers I know and am aware of are burnt out, so they all will burn out! Oh and it's immature, whatever that means." Sorry for the snark, but when there's clearly a visibility problem, these one-off negative anecdotes given as universal observations and advice are nearly useless.

Look, I'm all for legalization, but let's not kid ourselves.

Alcohol doesn't make you more sociable. Tobacco doesn't make you look cool. And weed doesn't help you relax.

Or rather, all of the above certainly do that, but there are ample alternatives that do it better and have zero consequences for your health.

Re: Ask PG: Does smoking marijuana affect the ability to hack and run a startup?

#43
post #5

If anything affected my short term memory adversely, I wouldn't touch it with a ten-foot pole.

Do you drink alcohol?

Very rarely, because I find the smallest amount of alcohol makes me sleepier the next morning and that is annoying.

Re: Ask PG: Does smoking marijuana affect the ability to hack and run a startup?

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post #27

Smoke weed if you like but don't kid yourself it's making you better at your work, ezpecially if you do it regularly. If you need stress relief, get good rest and exercise. I've seen several promising friends fizzle and burn out because they started needing to have a smoke for breakfast. Just keep it to the occasional party and try to phase it out completely as you continue the process of growing up.

"The only pot smokers I know and am aware of are burnt out, so they all will burn out! Oh and it's immature, whatever that means." Sorry for the snark, but when there's clearly a visibility problem, these one-off negative anecdotes given as universal observations and advice are nearly useless.

You really have no idea what my experiences are, but you seem quite judgemental and somewhat defensive, and eager to pick a fight.

The point remains that there is a non-zero chance of harming your chances of achieving you career goals if you light up frequently. Ther are no doubt outliers who can work well stoned, but for the regular person this is not likely to be the case. In fact for most people they'll regret endless hours stoned on the couch when they look back, after they realisr their youth and enthusiasm were precious assets that don't last forever.

Growing up and facing the world clear headed is a worthy goal. I don't think anyone can really argue against that.

Re: Ask PG: Does smoking marijuana affect the ability to hack and run a startup?

#45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be clear, I am not being facetious. If you want to throw around cut-throat, myopic terms like "crutch", then let me first note that caffeine is a performance-enhancing nootropic; and I've worked with a developer who never once ate lunch in my 6 months working along side him. I personally eat lunch maybe once a week. And honestly, I smirk at people who do eat lunch. And it goes without saying what I think of leisur…

Why would you smirk at people who eat lunch?

Well, I wanted to give a "frank" tit for tat, to anyone who might argue this "crutch" position.

I personally enjoy the pain of hunger as I code. That's why. I smirk in that I more fully realize my difference from others when I know they clearly do not enjoy that pain. I'm surely not saying it makes me better or smarter. I smirk in that I, in a way, come to know myself better: that I enjoy the pain of hunger, and what it looks like of others who do not, given the context.

Re: Ask PG: Does smoking marijuana affect the ability to hack and run a startup?

#46
(throwaway)

Hi. I'm a software developer that smokes multiple times daily even as I work (remotely).

Started smoking weed semi-regularly when I was 15. It helps me get over certain anxiety issues. Never really kicked the habit, but I never really felt like I wanted to except to pass a drug test.

It was a little harder to find a job after college. I have quit for small periods of time while looking for a job. But my clients and I are happy. Isn't that what really matters?

On being a public face: Are you setting up your company's culture and image? It's up to you to decide if the risk of fallout is greater than smoking your nugs IF the public finds out.

On being an amazing hacker: Maybe. I'm not old enough to have put in my ten years or 10k hours for 'expert' status as a software engineer yet. I do not consider myself to be a 10x (engineer), but I'm definitely not a 1x either.

Background: B.S. in EE/CmpE, software engineer (Rails primarily right now) and sysadmin

Re: Ask PG: Does smoking marijuana affect the ability to hack and run a startup?

#47
When I was 17, after a good night's sleep and a good breakfast, I smoked two bowls and then went to do an intelligence test (a real one with supervision, which took several hours to do).. scored 142 out of 145 possible for that test, during which I finished a set of 50 logic puzzles which wasn't really intended to be finished (the idea was how far you get in 5 minutes). I never dared to take another test since then, there is no way that is my actual IQ; I had a good day and was "in the zone".

But I also tried to smoke continuously, and that did not work out well for me. I think it's like a glass of wine can be nice, but being tipsy all the time is not, not to mention being really drunk. I would say, don't spoil this wonderful plant for yourself by abusing it (not to mention the temporary damage you can do to yourself with it). I think it was George Carlin who said he writes his material sober, but then smokes a joint to make the finishing touches. I can see how that makes sense, but I don't know how much it applies to programming. This is for you to find out, carefully.

Re: Ask PG: Does smoking marijuana affect the ability to hack and run a startup?

#48
For a great bit on the benefits of rec use of weed, YouTube "Joe Rogan on smoking weed". By far the best take on the modern advocate.

My personal take is that its both a tool for self examination and insight, yet also promotes play. Used with good intention it can be super powerful in getting your shit together and loosening up too. Used as a distraction it's no different than needlessly checking social media, watching too much porn, lottery tickets or cheeseburgers.

If you haven't smoked in 5, 10 years. Try it again with a close friend and go baked to the movies, go eat somewhere awesome, and go back to the house and watch that pink Floyd DVD. Post your trip report in the comments. :)

Re: Ask PG: Does smoking marijuana affect the ability to hack and run a startup?

#49
post #5

If anything affected my short term memory adversely, I wouldn't touch it with a ten-foot pole.

Do you drink alcohol?

Ahem, the same question seems to have been posted and deleted from a different account, which I know courtesy HN Notify. Others may have gotten similar notifications. Let's say the other account name has something to do with server-side javascript.

snoop_a_loop, if you are serious about protecting your identity with regards to this thread, consider deleting it immediately.

Re: Ask PG: Does smoking marijuana affect the ability to hack and run a startup?

#50
post #40

While Steve Jobs is an entrepreneurial outlier, and I recommend against smoking weed often simply because it can be a crutch for psychological issues, Jobs had an interesting history of LSD and cannabis use: "The best way I could describe the effect of the marijuana and hashish is that it would make me relaxed and creative" [1]. And then went on to found what became the most valuable company on the planet. [1] http:/…

I've seen a lot of articles stating that when you're tired the mind is more 'creative' irrespective of drug use. If pot can be used as a responsible tool for 'creativity' its one thing, but I've had childhood friends that have smoked heavily since they were young and are literally in a permanent state of arrested intellectual development.
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