Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm not a shy person about personal details. They were threatening to give me 99 years in prison for Aggravated Robbery, which is a Class 1 felony, merely because of my inadvertent involvement in the crime. That's on the same level as murder and all of those frightening things. The Jurisdiction was Williamson county, a neighboring county of Austin, TX. They are well-known for their no leniency attitudes.
Do you remember what made it "aggravated" robbery? Robbery meant there was someone at the target house, right?
What is it like to be a geek in a prison?
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#182Earlier quoted context omitted.
From a Scandinavian viewpoint, the US prison system looks like the 19th century in many ways. I have no problem with that, longer sentences for repeat offenders with many crimes would be better than rebates(!) on prison time, like in Sweden. Point is, I'm not that judgmental and still I say: Not trying to rehabilitate prisoners so they have good job skills is obviously insane. And totally immoral. More of the prisone…
> Some economic interest in getting repeat offenders back into prison. Interestingly enough, this actually exists in the US. As crazy as it sounds, there are private prisons that are paid on a per-inmate basis. These corporations typically put their political donations behind candidates who are "tough on crime" to fill their jails and line their pockets. It would be terribly interesting to see what kind of impact the…
Re: What is it like to be a geek in a prison?
#183I saw a big machine opposite my cell. I asked the guards (standing opposite my cell) what that machine did. They light up with excitement that someone showed interested in and could have a coherent conversation. They spent all night explaining to me and showing to me all the cool technology in the system. That big machine -- apparently for electronic fingerprints to take them and transmit them to some national database but it never worked, they kept on mocking the NYC police dept for adding layers and layers of technology and bureaucratic forms and none of it worked, including that machine. We ended up having an all-night conversation, we got along great. I asked the guards all these things I always wanted to ask policemen but never had the chance to: have you ever bee in a chase (yes, once, on the BQE!). What is the pay like? (Horrible, so they all have second jobs; he also worked at Radio Shack! But they all want to get jobs on Long Island, where the police pay is awesome!). It was a very fascinating and enlightening conversation.
12 hours later, when I was released, the policemen I spent the night talking to, offered to drive me back to my apt. He did and when he dropped me off, he got out of the car and shook my hand. Bizarre experience.
Conclusion: I think the police treated me well because I treated them with respect, and I showed in them.
(And because I'm white and dress well. When I went to the court for the court date a few weeks later... I was the only white person in the entire courthouse, excluding the lawyers and judges. No exaggeration. The judge ended up throwing out my case before the trial even started.)
Re: What is it like to be a geek in a prison?
#184Earlier quoted context omitted.
Assuming that OP has no EU citizenship I imagine it would be very, very difficult to obtain a (work) visa with a a US criminal record. Showing that you have no criminal record in any of the countries you have lived in the last X years is a standard part of visa applications anywhere.
I have come to the same conclusion with my own research. My best hope for being in the EU is if my wife gets a work visa and I just travel there as a spouse on a residents visa and don't have official employment there. This might be an option if all of my work is done online, but it does skirt the intentions of the law and I don't like doing that for moral reasons.
If you'd still be earning in dollars, especially, cost of living in much of Europe would be really rough. You might get work permission yourself after half a decade or so of residency (that's how it worked for me), but I still don't see that it would necessarily help. Wouldn't application forms still ask about your criminal history?
I guess you'd be freer to lie on those forms without being found out, but that's an incredibly weak reason to move to another country.
Re: What is it like to be a geek in a prison?
#185Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do you remember what made it "aggravated" robbery? Robbery meant there was someone at the target house, right?
You're confusing robbery and burglary. The common law definition of robbery is assault + larceny (theft) - that is, it's taking something that's not yours combined with making someone fear imminent harm.
According to the model penal code, "burglary" is the charge of attempting a felony by surreptitiously breaking into a building. The unique elements of burglary are all about gaining access to buildings. Like you said, robbery is about theft by force.
For what it's worth, I asked because Texas has three "aggravated" robbery statutes: robbery with concomitant physical harm to people, robbery using threat of deadly force, and robbery targeting the elderly.
Re: What is it like to be a geek in a prison?
#186When I was originally sentenced, I was sentenced to a "boot-camp" style facility, with the goal of doing 90 days of boot-camp style labor, and walking out of prison a free man with a parole term. Due to some paperwork issues, I was transported to the main prison camp (where the camp's goal was to treat sex offenders), and ended up doing 99% of my time at that camp instead, waiting for a bed to open up. By the time a bed opened up at the boot camp, I had less than three months left to go on my sentence, and chose to stay on the hill instead of the boot camp, and expired out with no probation or parole at the end.
Prison itself is a great sociological experience. There are three tiers of people -- the grunts (who have their own stack ranking system), the intellectuals, and the guards. Communication between any of the three groups is a challenge. Learning to talk to the 'grunts' always came with some intimidation. I ended up getting a job in the law library, helping other inmates type out legal motions and briefs. Fellow inmates would ask for my assistance with their appeals, and guards would ask for my assistance with their union cases. It was an interesting dichotomy, to say the least. You keep your head down, and only form alliances in which trust is the underlying factor. Around my 9th month there, there was a massive race riot in the prison, and I had both an African American guy as well as a Hispanic guy deflect conflict that was coming my way because of those relationships and the assistance that I had rendered in the library.
Upon my release, I went head-first into getting an education. I applied, and was accepted to MIT and RIT when I took the ACT and scored high on it, only to have my acceptances removed once they performed my background check. Two smaller religious colleges did accept me, regardless of my background, and I ended up focusing on engineering.
I graduated in 2003. I couldn't find a job until 2006, surviving on working small jobs for retailers (merchandising), and eventually going back to school for an MBA, graduating with my Doctorate in 2007.
Two things to realize:
1.) After each days passes and you stay out of prison, your chances of going back fall. 90% of recidivism occurs after the first year.
2.) After seven years, they can no longer report any criminal activities if you are doing a FDCPA based background check. That information will be there, but they're not allowed to use that information (in the state of California, at least). Banks and others use a SEC of FBI based background check, and those will always show.
I ended up getting a pardon in 2009. It cost me about $100,000 and was shady as all hell, and then took me another 18 months to clean up from the various background check providers, but, now my background is clean, and I have worked for big companies and startups alike.
Prison isn't the problem, it is the lack of opportunities that exist after prison that's the problem. Housing options are closed for you once you're released because of your record -- nonviolent or violent. Employment opportunities dry up. Educational opportunities no longer exist, or the funding isn't there due to your conviction. If you don't hustle every day, a felony record is the equivalent to a civil death sentence -- you have doors that close up and things that cannot be fixed until you either die, get it expunged, or have it no longer work for you.
Re: What is it like to be a geek in a prison?
#187Earlier quoted context omitted.
No one has ever gone to prison for BS reasons, or been falsely accused. How can you ever trust anyone who ever did anything wrong in their life? If you've done something wrong you're obviously a bad person forever. Edit: As an aside, it is very likely you have committed a crime punishable by jail time and not been caught/prosecuted, at least once in your life (with or without you knowing it).
Exactly. I know someone who received a ticket for a broken tail light. He forgot to pay it and ended up going to jail for 8 months! 8 months! For a broken tail light! I would have expected an additional penalty or at most a week in jail, which even then I would consider that extreme.
Re: What is it like to be a geek in a prison?
#188Earlier quoted context omitted.
Exactly. I know someone who received a ticket for a broken tail light. He forgot to pay it and ended up going to jail for 8 months! 8 months! For a broken tail light! I would have expected an additional penalty or at most a week in jail, which even then I would consider that extreme.
Was he from Texas?
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#189I am a developer/hacker who spent 6 months in prison about a decade ago. They had a room of old broken computers that were donated and I offered to fix them up in exchange for increased library privileges. Normally inmates could only visit the library once a week and check out two books, but I read about 4 books a day during my time there. I fixed up the computers and supported them once they got a teacher, read my b…
In Sweden the record is removed 10 years after a prison sentence has been served. However, requesting ones criminal record is not usual besides applications to work at a kinder garten or school.
My opinion is basically that once a person has served the sentence no additional "social" sentence should be given. I feel that that would just be counterproductive and keep people in crime as they are prevented from joining the community.
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#190"I learned that you should go straight to the person you're upset with rather than go to authorities." This is bullshit and dumb advice. If someone steals my bike and I find out who it is, I'm not going to go to his apartment and beat him to death in the middle of the day (smart money on confronting a scumbag not leading to a productive conversation). Fuck that. The reason we have "authorities" is because we have peo…
I'm also very surprised at peoples responses to this. If I have a serious crime committed to me I'm not going to confront a potentially dangerous individual. It simply isn't worth the risk. Why put yourself and your family at risk just for the chance of securing some kind of respect from a criminal?
One of the largest single sources of arrests and convictions are the drug war -- I will not call the police if I see someone buying, selling, or using drugs. A lot of people on the other hand, will call the police because they see something "suspicious" and that suspicious behavior might not even be illegal.
In addition, lots of crimes occur with context, and sometimes the context muddles what true justice would be. If you don't know the context behind what you're seeing, it's easy to think the police will help when the reality may be anything but. If people are stealing because they or their loved ones are hungry, are the police really the best option? People seem to be more content to call the police than they are to take difficult steps to try to ensure that people are fed and cared for, and that's a problem. I want to live in a world where people are able to have good relationships with their neighbors, to know how they're life is going, and be able to offer support for them if they need it -- and all of those should be easier and come more natural than calling police on their neighbors to externalize the problem.
I could see someone hassling someone else, but for all I know they're stepping up to someone who has consistently attacked or harmed them or their loved ones. At some point - seeing someone who is being sexually assaulted, seeing people who are surviving domestic abuse, etc. - I do believe there's a moral imperative to help the person who is being victimized and if calling the police is the best way to do that then by all means. But in my view these crimes are the small minority of crimes that fill the jails and prisons, or that the police get called about.
Anyhow. Obviously there are times when I think everyone is best served by calling the police. If I had to choose between "see something, say something [to armed police who will then involve themselves with violence]" and "stop snitching" my preference would be stop snitching. Things are often more nuanced than either allows, however.
If it's a stolen wallet or bicycle I'm not going to call the police (unless necessary to get a report for insurance purposes) and it's not my job to play detective and find the perpetrators. I do believe that the police usually make bad situations worse, but that doesn't mean I don't believe there are bad situations where they can help.