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Re: Ask HN: How to fire your co-founder?

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post #19

"when in reality his contributions are near 0 for product development as well as S&M." What, he won't even hold the whip? ;) I'm pretty sure that "S&M" above actually refers to "Sales & Marketing", for anybody else who was... confused on a first read.

It's actually BDSM, Business Development, Sales & Marketing.

Re: Ask HN: How to fire your co-founder?

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If I talk with my boards on his misbehaviour it will get them stressed and stop believing on the company Sorry dude, looks like that is precisely what you are going to have to do. Don't worry about the board stressing; they can handle it. That's their job. Focus on YOUR job: the success of the company. The board will stop believing you when you prolong this longer than you should have, actually making the situation m…

Thanks for the advice. I might go with this one after holiday ends. The only problem I see here is that he has more rapport with them (since I'm more product oriented and he's money oriented).

It's going to get real messy, especially since he holds all money, bank, passwords info (now I understand why he wanted to take control of those stuff in the beginning). Firing him will be so messy, and the 3 employees we have today respect him a lot especially since he's an expert following those rules in the article I stated in the original post (he's even deceived me lot's of times!)

shit.. Sometimes I think I need a new startup problem to solve to leave the company because this is not letting me sleep at night (and it's no longer the first thought when waking up in the morning).

Re: Ask HN: How to fire your co-founder?

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post #2

1. Watch Startup.com. 2. Talk to him. Offer him something in return for his shares (such as a large amount of debt which is only triggered if/when the company sees a liquidation event of suitable magnitude). There hopefully will not be a step 3.

Watch what? The site you're plugging may as well be a parked domain.

Re: Ask HN: How to fire your co-founder?

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post #24
post #2

1. Watch Startup.com. 2. Talk to him. Offer him something in return for his shares (such as a large amount of debt which is only triggered if/when the company sees a liquidation event of suitable magnitude). There hopefully will not be a step 3.

Watch what? The site you're plugging may as well be a parked domain.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0256408/

Re: Ask HN: How to fire your co-founder?

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post #24
post #2

1. Watch Startup.com. 2. Talk to him. Offer him something in return for his shares (such as a large amount of debt which is only triggered if/when the company sees a liquidation event of suitable magnitude). There hopefully will not be a step 3.

Watch what? The site you're plugging may as well be a parked domain.

It's a movie about a terrible dotcom bubble startup that prominently features a founder breakup.

Re: Ask HN: How to fire your co-founder?

#29
post #19

"when in reality his contributions are near 0 for product development as well as S&M." What, he won't even hold the whip? ;) I'm pretty sure that "S&M" above actually refers to "Sales & Marketing", for anybody else who was... confused on a first read.

It's actually BDSM, Business Development, Sales & Marketing.

You might want to put those in a different order to not get confused with the other BDSM.

Re: Ask HN: How to fire your co-founder?

#30

If I talk with my boards on his misbehaviour it will get them stressed and stop believing on the company Sorry dude, looks like that is precisely what you are going to have to do. Don't worry about the board stressing; they can handle it. That's their job. Focus on YOUR job: the success of the company. The board will stop believing you when you prolong this longer than you should have, actually making the situation m…

Thanks for the advice. I might go with this one after holiday ends. The only problem I see here is that he has more rapport with them (since I'm more product oriented and he's money oriented). It's going to get real messy, especially since he holds all money, bank, passwords info (now I understand why he wanted to take control of those stuff in the beginning). Firing him will be so messy, and the 3 employees we have…

You should enlist a friend or a mentor to help you prepare with this situation. They can come up with tough questions that the board might ask you and make sure that you have a coherent, clear answer. That has helped me tremendously in clarifying my own thoughts.

You should also roleplay with this person as if he is your cofounder. Have him be a dick and make any argument you can see you cofounder make at any point. I've learned that winning arguments and being right are two different things. This way, if your cofounder is good with the former, you need to be prepared and roleplaying will give you a great edge!

Also, write down all possible scenarios. So if the board asks you "what will happen if the employees quit?" you need to have already thought through that use-case. They will probably be very impressed if you have a document that has these use-cases and possible plans.

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