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What is it like to be a geek in a prison?

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Re: What is it like to be a geek in a prison?

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Living in a society is about being able to reason with others. Instead of trying to skirt issues and involve authorities in hopes to solve problems, it usually is better to confront the person themselves. Your example went straight to an extreme. It doesn't have to be theft, or murder, or an assault that makes you "upset" at them. Maybe you feel wronged because they said something in public that you wanted private. A…

>Maybe you feel wronged because they said something in public that you wanted private. You cannot go to authorities with "he called me a butt." The issues here are a subclass of "crimes and wrongs that authorities would address." My example is not going to an extreme. Have you ever confronted a criminal? How did it go? Do you see where it could have gone worse?

I once confronted the guy that broke into my car and stole my stereo. He gave everything he still had back (he didn't have the CDs anymore).

For what it's worth, I only went to him directly after the police shrugged it off and wouldn't pursue it. I gave them his address, description, other crimes he had been involved in (drug dealer), etc. They didn't care, and when the crime happened couldn't even be bothered to lift a couple of prints.

I was so angry when he said "sorry man, I figured your insurance would cover it, no hard feelings". But, looking back, he was just dumb as hell and stealing from a friend of a friend you met once made sense to him...In this sort of situation, handling the issue directly worked out for me better than going to the police.

Re: What is it like to be a geek in a prison?

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"I learned that you should go straight to the person you're upset with rather than go to authorities." This is bullshit and dumb advice. If someone steals my bike and I find out who it is, I'm not going to go to his apartment and beat him to death in the middle of the day (smart money on confronting a scumbag not leading to a productive conversation). Fuck that. The reason we have "authorities" is because we have peo…

Man, I don't think you understand how these cultures work. But if you don't understand it by now, then you probably aren't going to learn it from a HN post. So... good luck with that.

Re: What is it like to be a geek in a prison?

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I am a developer/hacker who spent 6 months in prison about a decade ago. They had a room of old broken computers that were donated and I offered to fix them up in exchange for increased library privileges. Normally inmates could only visit the library once a week and check out two books, but I read about 4 books a day during my time there. I fixed up the computers and supported them once they got a teacher, read my b…

let me know what kind of developer you are. Can you PM me on Hacker News.

Re: What is it like to be a geek in a prison?

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"I learned many things from inmates that I never learned in my prior life. I learned that you should go straight to the person you're upset with rather than go to authorities. I learned that giving and keeping your word is the ultimate measurement of character. I learned that loyalty is easy to promise, but few really deliver. Don't be that guy. Prison is really a learning crucible since the reactions are so quick and amplified. If you have annoying habits, you'll find out fast. If you are not respectful to others, you'll hear about it and you may get a "tune up" to teach you respect."

Sounds like a better and less expensive education than Harvard and Wharton.

Re: What is it like to be a geek in a prison?

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Of course my self-involved reaction to this discussion is "what does a geek do to land themselves in prison?" I'm guessing probably mostly drug offenses, and maybe occasionally hacking related activities. Anything else? I'm sure violent crime is pretty unusual. Maybe tax evasion?

Re: What is it like to be a geek in a prison?

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Interesting, thanks. I wonder if Quora does this to scam on SEO

Maybe, but there are perfectly legitimate reasons for such functionality. It is essentially the same as the NYT paywall. It looks bad when someone clicks a link in a tweet only to be told that they aren't allowed to access the content until they take additional steps (either buying a subscription or making an account).

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Can this be used for SEO abuse? Probably, though I couldn't tell you how.

Re: What is it like to be a geek in a prison?

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There are portions of society that believe, sometimes with good cause, that bringing police into an interaction will result in a negative outcome for all involved, not just for the perpetrators. That said, please stop perpetuating a strawman argument. You've taken the most extreme interpretation of the original statement, propped it up and vilified it. Considering all the possible ways you could have interpreted the…

I'm not perpetuating a strawman. The reason why there's a secondary justice system (normally in which the aggressors are the victors) is because people allow it to exist.

Original statement:

I learned that you should go straight to the person you're upset with rather than go to authorities.

Your response:

This is bullshit and dumb advice. If someone steals my bike and I find out who it is, I'm not going to go to his apartment and beat him to death in the middle of the day (smart money on confronting a scumbag not leading to a productive conversation).

So it appears you are interpreting "go straight to" as "confront with violence"?

There are any number of circumstances where going to the person you believe responsible may be beneficial over including the authorities. For example:

1) You are wrong in who you think perpetrated the crime. Involving the authorities may cause great harm to that individual, event if they are found innocent. Talking to them first may clear up misunderstandings.

2) It was a misunderstanding. Maybe there wasn't even a crime, what you thought you saw/experienced wasn't the case. Getting a fuller picture may result in your reassessment of the situation.

3) You don't think the punishment meted out will fit the crime committed, and you want to give them a chance to make amends. Maybe they are young, and you can speak to a parental figure to try to resolve the issue.

4) You have some relation to them or people close to them that you would rather not sour.

That isn't to say don't go to the authorities. Of course there are cases where you go directly to the authorities. I doubt the author would dispute that.

The real world is a place of nuance. I feel confident asserting that you know this to some degree. Acting like it isn't doesn't do anything useful, least of all lead to a conversation that has much benefit.

Re: What is it like to be a geek in a prison?

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I am a developer/hacker who spent 6 months in prison about a decade ago. They had a room of old broken computers that were donated and I offered to fix them up in exchange for increased library privileges. Normally inmates could only visit the library once a week and check out two books, but I read about 4 books a day during my time there. I fixed up the computers and supported them once they got a teacher, read my b…

Is sealing your juvenile record not an option where you live?

Re: What is it like to be a geek in a prison?

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You get access to Corrlinks email you pay a lot for if in fed prison, and since min security is where most criminals end up so they can perform nearly free labour there is barely any violence. If you follow the simple rules of prison nothing is likely to happen to you. Rules are never talk to guards you will look like a snitch, accept nothing from other inmates, don't talk about any other inmate if they arent in front of you and do your own time. A good example is somebody tells you hey that guy over there called you a goof. This person is trying to get you to beat somebody up for them but since you do your own time you laugh it off and reply he can say it to your face, then the weasel guy slinks away to find another sucker to fight for him.

Prison is just being really bored all the time for the most part and working menial labor for pennies a day. Hopefully people you know send you books. If you maintain a prison blog BOP will read it and punish you severely for any criticisms. Like months in solitary. Don't ever release pictures either and put them on social media or online even if you get permission. Solitary again.

The most interesting prison is where foreigners are housed in the US @ D Ray. There is no racism because no Americans so none of that don't eat with people outside yout race crap and hardly any other silly rules American inmates make up. The spanish inmates have a union everybody joins to coordinate disobedience against the guards whenever they crackdown on the library or other rights you're supposed to get from BOP. Other fed prisons it's mainly run by illiterate racists and gangs who for the most part leave you alone unless you break a rule or have money to extort.

Re: What is it like to be a geek in a prison?

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You literally don't know shit about him or his situation. I honestly feel bad for you; there's no point in being hostile about somebody's character based on a short synopsis of somebody else's jail time.

Yeah. "Feel bad for me because I'm in prison. Never mind how I got here. I can write the DDL for a simple database. I'm a hero! NO DISUSSION ALLOWED". Simple world you live in, it is.

No one has ever gone to prison for BS reasons, or been falsely accused. How can you ever trust anyone who ever did anything wrong in their life? If you've done something wrong you're obviously a bad person forever.

Edit: As an aside, it is very likely you have committed a crime punishable by jail time and not been caught/prosecuted, at least once in your life (with or without you knowing it).

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