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Edward Snowden, after months of NSA revelations, says his mission’s accomplished

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Re: Edward Snowden, after months of NSA revelations, says his mission’s accomplished

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Hopefully he'll stop hogging the frontpage then. Just like nobody remembers Julian Assange anymore.

Do you want the NSA to keep on spying on US citizens without oversight, to turn over its data to US law enforcement for "parallel reconstruction"?

Do you want to live in a total-surveillance society?

Re: Edward Snowden, after months of NSA revelations, says his mission’s accomplished

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They'll probably make him a felon, won't they? (Can you vote for felons in the US?)

A convicted spy (he's charged with espionage) can't get elected: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourteenth_Amendment_to_the_Un...

He hasn't been tried or convicted (yet).

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Unless something happens to ramp up the fear again, like some kind of attack.

I highly recommend the book "Crisis and Leviathan", by Robert Higgs. Everyone knows that government has continually grown in size and scope during this past century, but how and why has it done so? Is this growth inherent in the nature of government or because of some greater social needs, or are there other causes? In Crisis and Leviathan, Robert Higgs shows that the main reason lies in government’s responses to nat…

Yes, this is the problem -- but how can we solve it? Does the book have any insights on that?

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I've never been arrested by a corporation.

Why should they arrest you when they can destroy you economically?

Because they don't make money by destroying me economically, duh.

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They'll probably make him a felon, won't they? (Can you vote for felons in the US?)

Yup. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_the_United_States#...

Well, that depends, particularly for Snowden. "Under Section 3 of the Fourteenth Amendment, no person who swore an oath to support the Constitution, and later rebelled against the United States, can become president. However, this disqualification can be lifted by a two-thirds vote of each house of Congress."

Re: Edward Snowden, after months of NSA revelations, says his mission’s accomplished

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The Washington Post sat on the Collateral Murder video. [1,2] The New York Times sat on the warrantless wiretapping scandal at the request of the White House. [3] CBS sat on the Abu Ghraib torture scandal at the request of the Pentagon. [4] What is the Washington Post not telling us? [1] https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/15617022129 [2] http://www.cjr.org/the_kicker/wapo_denies_allegation_it_sat.... [3] http://fai…

The Washington Post is a fucking joke. And then they wonder why people are abandoning print media in droves and turning to the internet for news.

It's dozens of orders of magnitude less of a fucking joke than Twitter and the blogosphere as far as journalistic quality. Quality control is hard and when a newsroom full of full-time professionals fails, it's not as if *.blogspot.com was really going to do better.

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He's there because he's a coward with no backbone. If he is so sure of his innocence, he'd be facing the court instead of propping up a government with terrible human rights record.

Do you really believe the court system works to determine innocence? Do you believe he would be guaranteed a fair trial? Do you think Manning got a fair trial? Do you believe that by taking refuge in Russia he's "propping up" their government? How? Do you believe that giving up a 6-figure salary and life to expose violations of the US constitution is an act of a coward? Are these opinions harbored by real people, or…

I believe he'd get a more fair trial than Navalny and Khodorkovsky did.

This one is pretty much obvious. It is a massive PR win for Putin, looking at uninformed online comments such as yours.

I believe he's paid much more by Russian intelligence services for all the secrets he has "exported".

The last question doesn't even deserve a response. If you're this closeminded, you shouldn't argue on the Internet at all.

Re: Edward Snowden, after months of NSA revelations, says his mission’s accomplished

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But what has really changed? The NSA is under pressure from the public, less so from the intelligence and defense communities. If anything Snowden has caused those areas of government to close ranks even tighter. There's nothing a leader wants more than a highly visible enemy to unite his or her people. There are orders of magnitude more people who hate General Alexander now than there were two years ago. But his own…

You seem to be responding to the title of the article, which takes Snowden's statement out of context. He was talking about his mission, which was to hand over the documents to journalists.
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