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The real use of money is to buy freedom

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Re: The real use of money is to buy freedom

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Tim O'Reilly on money: It’s easy to get caught up in the heady buzz of making money. You should regard money as fuel for what you really want to do, not as a goal in and of itself. Money is like gas in the car — you need to pay attention or you’ll end up on the side of the road — but a well-lived life is not a tour of gas stations! Source: http://radar.oreilly.com/2009/01/work-on-stuff-that-matters-...

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Re: The real use of money is to buy freedom

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Overall, I agree with the post.

> The freedom to do whatever one wants, wherever one wants (within moral limits, I hope).

This overreaches. You cannot do "whatever," "wherever". This implies complete control over one's circumstances, which is obviously absurd.

More precisely, money buys increased control over your circumstances and life. This is very valuable and empowering, but it is clearly limited.

Re: The real use of money is to buy freedom

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This Hans Rosling talk from a few years ago shows how most indicators are improving worldwide (e.g. reductions in child mortality, GDP per capita). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVimVzgtD6w

Depression is also rising to epidemic proportions, suggesting that improving economic indicators may simply not have anything to do with quality of life.

More like, mental health is not directly correlated with quality of life. Freed from the preoccupation of having to fight or work hard for basic needs, many people fail to find meaning in their life.

Re: The real use of money is to buy freedom

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Instead of the pursuit of freedom, we should dedicate ourselves to obligations that honor ourselves and others Says you. I appreciate the freedom to sit at home and play a video game on a Saturday without feeling compelled to meet the needs of others.

Sounds like you're honoring yourself. Carry on.

Sounds like you have issues where you feel the need to control others.

Re: The real use of money is to buy freedom

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I desperately want you to be Ghostface Killah. Fantastic story by the way. How did you acquire your wealth if you don't mind me asking?

Sorry to disappoint but I am another yet another programmer/techie who picked his handle based on early hip hop influences. Most of the money was thanks to entrepreneurial endeavors and code. I love building things. I still build, focus is just a bit different now.

Well hopefully your experience will be reflective of mine one day. My entrepreneurial ambitions and coding skills combined with multiple failed projects have taken me on the opposite journey - from relative wealth to relative poverty. I got screwed out of the one success I created - a company I was the technical co-founder of that was acquired for $64 million - by an unscrupulous partner who basically stole my $12.8 million stake and now fancies himself a televangelist. I am starting to lose hope that anything I create will be valuable ever again. Money definitely matters to me right now.

Re: The real use of money is to buy freedom

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I really like the idea of money as freedom. I'll take it a step further though, and that is the ability to generate at least somewhat passive income whether from a business or from investments. Not having to make money right now is key to freedom.

Re: The real use of money is to buy freedom

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>This assumes that wealth is a zero-sum game, so it can be traded around but not created. >And it very much is. You may be confusing wealth with money, which is in fact a zero-sum game. Wealth, on the other hand, can be created and it's been constantly created all the time throughout history. The section on the Pie Fallacy in this article may help clarify it: http://paulgraham.com/wealth.html

> You may be confusing wealth with money, which is in fact a zero-sum game. Wealth, on the other hand, can be created So can money. Neither wealth nor money is zero-sum.

Money as a form of credit is zero sum. For example on the other side of every US dollar is debt security (government or mortgage) that the Fed has bought. Money only has meaning if someone (maybe indirectly) owes you that money. But it is correct that absolute wealth (or what economists call utility) is not zero sum. To focus on relative wealth is to invite unhappiness that no one or system can help. We don't live in Lake Woebegone.

Re: The real use of money is to buy freedom

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I liked this article because unlike many on this topic the author's viewpoint was fairly nuanced. However I still think the author goes too far in his claims of how useless money is. First, raising children is very expensive, and to put 2 or 3 kids through college requires a lot of money. And most single people would like to have a family at some point, so they need no excuse for saving money. Second, money (and cons…

I can only just barely imagine the things you're talking about as real things that really happen. Surely they can only happen to other people - to another class of people. My parents didn't put any of us through college. I don't have a family and don't expect to. Sometimes I forget these things are real for some people. I think of them the same way most people think of fame and riches.
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