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New jailbreak available for iOS7 by the evad3rs

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Re: New jailbreak available for iOS7 by the evad3rs

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Post by cageface »

rimantas wrote: post #136
endgame wrote: post #68

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Good points, but I'm sorry to point out that buying the iPhone itself supports the war on general purpose computing. Jailbreaking might get you out of this set of digital handcuffs, but what about the next one, or the one after that?

Do you also claim that buying Wii, Xbox, PS also support "the war on general purpose computing"? What kind of ideas is this? If I buy milk do I support the war on grain based food? Do those buying Android phones without any intention to develop for the platform or rooting their phones also support the war on general purpose computing?

A smart phone or tablet is increasingly the only access many people have to the net. The implications of control here are in a completely different category from a disposable game console.

Re: New jailbreak available for iOS7 by the evad3rs

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Post by kalleboo »

superuser2 wrote: post #121
girvo wrote: post #76

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I hate how they make it super hard if not impossible to override the APNs yourself... I change carriers every month, and do all sorts of odd stuff with my SIMs, and my iPhone chokes on them because of it :(

>I change carriers every month I'd be surprised if there were more than a handful of people actually doing this, which would explain why your use case doesn't get substantial engineering/UX resources.

They don't need any engineering/UX, they just need to stop locking down all the settings. Android and every dumbphone I ever owned had no problems with this.

Re: New jailbreak available for iOS7 by the evad3rs

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Post by so898 »

conradev wrote: post #97
grugq wrote: post #72

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Well, the reason that the Cydia store doesn't work, and that Saurik wasn't included in the discussions, is starting to become clear. A Chinese company paid the evad3rs a rumored 1 million dollars for the jailbreak, forcing their own App Store onto the phone. If the computer running the jailbreak has Chinese as the main language, then the Chinese 太极 (taiji) market app is install. Cydia is available as an option, but i…

Just some additions: - Taig[1] installs apps that run in the sandbox, not as root. - The Taig app itself runs as root. - Taig is removable if installed. - Taig appears to contain a lot of copyrighted material. - The evad3rs want to try to explain themselves[2] [1] http://www.taig.com [2] https://twitter.com/pod2g/status/414810704349499392

Taig could install apps that run out of the sandbox, just like the apps that be installed by cydia. Taig is not removable, if you remove taig, your iOS will be to the DFU mode (Not safe mode).

Re: New jailbreak available for iOS7 by the evad3rs

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Post by dmazin »

wcfields wrote: post #120
dmazin wrote: post #111

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Yup. Browser defaults, Swype selection, and f.lux alone are enough to jailbreak.

I just discovered Flex* today, another must have. * It's an easy way to flip values for tweaks for apps and Springboard. Saves a lot of time vs one by one installing these in Cydia. Eg: Staff Mode for Instagram, 5 icon dock, remove ads... Plus many users have saved tweaks to Flex's cloud.

Staff Mode for Instagram?

Re: New jailbreak available for iOS7 by the evad3rs

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Post by girvo »

superuser2 wrote: post #121
girvo wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hate how they make it super hard if not impossible to override the APNs yourself... I change carriers every month, and do all sorts of odd stuff with my SIMs, and my iPhone chokes on them because of it :(

>I change carriers every month I'd be surprised if there were more than a handful of people actually doing this, which would explain why your use case doesn't get substantial engineering/UX resources.

Of course my use case is very much and edge case, but if they just let me have access to the damned settings it wouldn't be a problem. It's my one gripe with my iPhone

Re: New jailbreak available for iOS7 by the evad3rs

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Post by archagon »

girvo wrote: post #76
kalleboo wrote: post #24

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I'm on an MVNO who doesn't care, but the settings for the network the MVNO runs ontop of override it with a different APN. It's times like this I really hate Apple's operator-relationship BS.

I hate how they make it super hard if not impossible to override the APNs yourself... I change carriers every month, and do all sorts of odd stuff with my SIMs, and my iPhone chokes on them because of it :(

My understanding was that you could change them yourself using either the iPhone Configuration Utility or http://www.unlockit.co.nz. Has something changed in that regard?

Re: New jailbreak available for iOS7 by the evad3rs

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Post by superuser2 »

kalleboo wrote: post #152
superuser2 wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>I change carriers every month I'd be surprised if there were more than a handful of people actually doing this, which would explain why your use case doesn't get substantial engineering/UX resources.

They don't need any engineering/UX, they just need to stop locking down all the settings. Android and every dumbphone I ever owned had no problems with this.

Are the settings locked down or do they just not exist? Apple would have to create and test the interface, make sure it's not possible to disable your device with it, etc. Which is a small thing, but easy to miss when there's no obvious need for it (except, of course, a few edge cases).

Re: New jailbreak available for iOS7 by the evad3rs

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Post by kalleboo »

archagon wrote: post #156
girvo wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hate how they make it super hard if not impossible to override the APNs yourself... I change carriers every month, and do all sorts of odd stuff with my SIMs, and my iPhone chokes on them because of it :(

My understanding was that you could change them yourself using either the iPhone Configuration Utility or http://www.unlockit.co.nz . Has something changed in that regard?

Tethering APNs and a few other settings (such as LTE enabling) are signed and can't be overridden that way

Re: New jailbreak available for iOS7 by the evad3rs

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Post by archagon »

kalleboo wrote: post #158
archagon wrote: post #156

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My understanding was that you could change them yourself using either the iPhone Configuration Utility or http://www.unlockit.co.nz . Has something changed in that regard?

Tethering APNs and a few other settings (such as LTE enabling) are signed and can't be overridden that way

Good to know, thanks for the info. Is there no way for carriers to apply these settings directly? I know Bell did some tinkering on my iPad when I got a SIM from them while traveling in Canada, but I don't know if it was anything more advanced than what the user can access.
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