> “If I defected at all,” Snowden said, “I defected from the government to the public.” He can't run til 2020, but I'll cast an early vote now.
They'll probably make him a felon, won't they? (Can you vote for felons in the US?)
Edward Snowden, after months of NSA revelations, says his mission’s accomplished
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#62Earlier quoted context omitted.
>Americans you are lost. It's been nice knowing you. There are fewer than 500 comments on that site as of right now, that doesn't mean anything about anything. Sometimes I wonder if people are actually aware that the United States has more people in it than can fit into a single room.
It's what would in most industries be considered a reasonable sized sampling. When you then look at this poll then, things start to look grim indeed: http://www.people-press.org/2013/06/10/majority-views-nsa-ph...
This is a self-selected sample. People who read the article and thought "meh, whatever" did not bother to leave a comment.
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#63I wish Snowden would roll up his sleeves and start working on the same problem in Russia, where he now lives, and in China, where he stayed briefly on his way to Russia. His mission has hardly begun.
Depends on whether he wants to take on more than civic duty.
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#64> “If I defected at all,” Snowden said, “I defected from the government to the public.” He can't run til 2020, but I'll cast an early vote now.
They'll probably make him a felon, won't they? (Can you vote for felons in the US?)
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#65> “If I defected at all,” Snowden said, “I defected from the government to the public.” He can't run til 2020, but I'll cast an early vote now.
They'll probably make him a felon, won't they? (Can you vote for felons in the US?)
Federally I am pretty sure the answer yes, everything else would depend on the states I guess. In fact you can even be in prison I am pretty sure.
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#66I didn’t want to change society. I wanted to give society a chance to determine if it should change itself. Despite a fair amount of indignation from the public, it seems to me that the majority has accepted the new surveillance reality.
The weird invasive thought I keep having is if Snowden could, if at all, be a limited hang-out-OP/MISO (PsyOp) to gauge just how much the public would accept. There have been enough revelations to see that the NSA got to keep what it is in entirety; mission accomplished.
This is definitely tinfoil hat territory. Some very high level people in the intelligence community may lose their jobs or (if things go very well) face charges in the next year or two. If the whole Snowden affair is an inside job then those high level people must have been ignorant of it since they would never accept the personal risk of the shitstorm that has resulted.
Re: Edward Snowden, after months of NSA revelations, says his mission’s accomplished
#67I didn’t want to change society. I wanted to give society a chance to determine if it should change itself. Despite a fair amount of indignation from the public, it seems to me that the majority has accepted the new surveillance reality.
The weird invasive thought I keep having is if Snowden could, if at all, be a limited hang-out-OP/MISO (PsyOp) to gauge just how much the public would accept. There have been enough revelations to see that the NSA got to keep what it is in entirety; mission accomplished.
The government could have used Special Administrative Measures (SAMs) to keep the Snowden documents out of the papers in the USA, sending the Secret Service round to collect any 'inappropriate' documents.
With a 'D-Notice' to effect the same in the UK and coupled with the usual soft measures - threaten to take away press passes from journalists (and their papers) - the whole lot could have been kept out of the papers.
The fact that these measures have not been used means that this was a limited hang out - or - that the Obama administration just does not know how to use the law as well as the Bush administration.
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#68I didn’t want to change society. I wanted to give society a chance to determine if it should change itself. Despite a fair amount of indignation from the public, it seems to me that the majority has accepted the new surveillance reality.
Perhaps folks are terrified of speaking out about the matter?
One specific concern I have: I wonder if members of congress feel threatened by the power of intelligence insiders to end a politician's career?
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#69Earlier quoted context omitted.
The weird invasive thought I keep having is if Snowden could, if at all, be a limited hang-out-OP/MISO (PsyOp) to gauge just how much the public would accept. There have been enough revelations to see that the NSA got to keep what it is in entirety; mission accomplished.
This is definitely tinfoil hat territory. Some very high level people in the intelligence community may lose their jobs or (if things go very well) face charges in the next year or two. If the whole Snowden affair is an inside job then those high level people must have been ignorant of it since they would never accept the personal risk of the shitstorm that has resulted.
Yeah, I mean just look how afraid Clapper was of lying, completely knowingly, to the Senate under oath. He must really be afraid of putting himself out there as the threat to his personal freedom is far too great.
Re: Edward Snowden, after months of NSA revelations, says his mission’s accomplished
#70Earlier quoted context omitted.
The weird invasive thought I keep having is if Snowden could, if at all, be a limited hang-out-OP/MISO (PsyOp) to gauge just how much the public would accept. There have been enough revelations to see that the NSA got to keep what it is in entirety; mission accomplished.
This is definitely tinfoil hat territory. Some very high level people in the intelligence community may lose their jobs or (if things go very well) face charges in the next year or two. If the whole Snowden affair is an inside job then those high level people must have been ignorant of it since they would never accept the personal risk of the shitstorm that has resulted.
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