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Re: COBOL on Wheelchair

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Post by ACow_Adonis »

malandrew wrote: post #11

I'm usually not one to get offended and and I'm not going to say the author is horrible person like some jerks around here that get offended by non-PC stuff, but it comes across as possibly a tad offensive to use a wheelchair as a jab at Ruby on Rails. I know it's a play on Cobol being old, but a lot of people confined to wheel chairs are young, in the prime of their life and extremely capable in other areas of their…

I presume you are aware of the old adage that every time you see a statement of the form "I'm not X, but Y", you can save yourself time by just ignoring everything before the "but"...

Re: COBOL on Wheelchair

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Post by icecreampain »

malandrew wrote: post #11

I'm usually not one to get offended and and I'm not going to say the author is horrible person like some jerks around here that get offended by non-PC stuff, but it comes across as possibly a tad offensive to use a wheelchair as a jab at Ruby on Rails. I know it's a play on Cobol being old, but a lot of people confined to wheel chairs are young, in the prime of their life and extremely capable in other areas of their…

The majority of people in wheelchairs couldn't care less that COW is named the way it is. Even IF one were to find someone that complains about the name, it is a single person that has chosen the lifestyle of consistently finding offensive with _everything_ anyways.

Your complaint is not unlike the PC people that forbid X, Y and censor Z "just in case" some minority could be offended. The minorities themselves never care.

Anyways, I leave it to you to get off your high horse and join us in the real world, were there are far greater problems than the name of a joke web framework.

Re: COBOL on Wheelchair

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Post by V-2 »

antimora wrote: post #10

Though I get the name, I wish it was named something other "on wheelchair". It feels a little degrading. Other than this, it's a nice conceptual work.

Degrading in what sense? For Cobol or for wheelchair users?

Re: COBOL on Wheelchair

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Post by qbrass »

was_hellbanned wrote: post #13

This was both humorous and interesting. The people complaining about the wheelchair aspect need to stop and think about their own projections around the word "wheelchair".

I don't like it because the lack of alliteration makes it a less catchy name.

I reckon it's the real reason responsible for Ruby on Rails recognition.

Re: COBOL on Wheelchair

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Post by anonyfox »

yareally wrote: post #20
lhgaghl wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I know it's a play on Cobol being old err... just from reading the title, I assumed it was a play on cobol being disadvantaged, but being old would also imply being disadvantaged physically. metaphorically speaking it makes perfect sense on first read... You seem to be using eval() on human language

If one spent enough time, they could even find "Ruby on Rails" offensive, in some misconstrued way as the word "rails" can be derived as conformist and against free thinking as one is confined to "rails." I don't think it's any of that, but just alluding that spend enough time dissecting anything and someone is bound to find issue with it. I think the overall gist is that we developers are not always marketing people…

I recently wrote about a way for developers to find "good enough" names in a short period of time.

http://blog.plague-dev.de/an-algorithmic-name-finding-proces...

It works for me and my colleagues pretty well. You could give it a try if you want.

Re: COBOL on Wheelchair

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Post by yareally »

anonyfox wrote: post #38
yareally wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If one spent enough time, they could even find "Ruby on Rails" offensive, in some misconstrued way as the word "rails" can be derived as conformist and against free thinking as one is confined to "rails." I don't think it's any of that, but just alluding that spend enough time dissecting anything and someone is bound to find issue with it. I think the overall gist is that we developers are not always marketing people…

I recently wrote about a way for developers to find "good enough" names in a short period of time. http://blog.plague-dev.de/an-algorithmic-name-finding-proces... It works for me and my colleagues pretty well. You could give it a try if you want.

Thanks for the tip. I'll check it out.

Re: COBOL on Wheelchair

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Post by Nimi »

I have to wonder: there are very competent "old technology/mainframe" programmers. They debugged complex programs using very primitive tools when we were all in diapers. Obviously, there are also very mediocre old programmers, but for the sake of this discussion, consider the best practitioners of their generation.

How is it that they mostly find themselves stuck in horrible jobs, maintaining legacy software on their old platforms? Surely, for a programmer with experience in assembly and Basic (as an example), becoming proficient in most modern languages shouldn't be a problem. But I strongly suspect that even the minority of the old programmers who bother learning a new language, can't find employment utilizing their new knowledge. Any thoughts?

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